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    Posted: February 25 2008 at 11:12am
I just bought a new 220G tank that isn't drilled.Clap I am so excited!!!!!
However, I want to drill it on the back side, near the top, for the drain and return lines.
My question is, how far below the surface should the drain lines be located for optimal draining?

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Any ideas would be very helpful.

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Kevin


Edited by unixnum1 - February 25 2008 at 11:14am
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What did Eric suggest?  He would be the one to talk to I think.
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I haven't asked him yet but I thought I would query the knowledgeable board first.
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Well, I know that some would disagree, but the 90 I bought ha two holes drilled in the bottom for drain/return.  The drain uses a Durso type system.  I really like it, but as some have pointed out it will be a real b**ch if the bulkheads ever leak!
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I like the ability of working on the drains while only partially draining the tank.
It will also give me more room  for stuff in the main tank.
I have had problems lately on my current bulhead leaking so I may need to drain it and repair it.
However, I will now wait until the new tank is ready before I drain it.

My daughter wants my current 55G for her tank.
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Cool on the 55...how old is your daughter?  My 10 year old son is starting to get the saltwater itch! Big%20smile
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She just turned 20 and was just married.
She has a small fresh water tank but wants to switch to salt water.
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Are you using an overflow box? 
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I currently have a full height overflow box inside my 55.
I want to go to a small overflow around the durso intake on the 220.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. . .

But if you have bulkheads installed with an overflow box - then if the bulks heads were ever to leak can't you turn off the return pump - let the overflow drain and then take out the leaky bulks heads and replace them?  Sure it would be a chore. . .

I would have Eric drill the bulkheads and do an overflow box for the tank. 
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Wow! I am really impressed that he can maintain it already.
You must be feeding him supermilk for the superbaby.LOL
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Kevin, I drilled my tank in the back about 2-3 inches below the water level then used small overflow boxes for each of the drains.  The boxes also utilized a durso style drain.  IME, ~2" of water fall is optimum.  That allows enough room for flow disturbances and it doesn't fall so far that it's noisy.
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I agree with Jon,  I have a similar setup.  Take in to consideration that with out the durso type style drain you may not get enough air into the drain and it may cause gurgling noises.  The concern may also be how much room you have for the plumbing inside your box between your bulkheads and the overflow boxes inside your tank.  If you are having your boxes made take that into consideration. You can accomplish the durso by putting a tee instead of an elbow on the outside drainpipe of your tank drawing.
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Thanks, the plan is to put a tee just past the bulkhead, I just didn't draw it.
I want to make a rock wall on the back of the tank and have the overflows hid by the rock wall.
Do I want to use 1", or 1.5" for the durso pipe?
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Here's what mine looked like:
 
 
 
 
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Is that 1" pipe?
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I would go with one inch pipe.  My boxes had baffles cut in all around the top edge.  When the power is cut to the drain I loose water in the tank only to the baffles, about one inch.
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Yup, 1".

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I have 1-1/2" pipes using the same thing that Jon did on my new tank. Street ells, and I'm clamping my bulkheads to the back just like Jon.
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