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    Posted: January 27 2006 at 3:33pm
I bought some corals from someone and he gave me a yellow tongan leather that wasn't doing so well.  it had turned a tan color and did not extend any polyps.  We've had it for about 2 weeks now and the color and turned bright yellow again so I thought everything was going great, but now there is some brown stuff bubbling out of the top and it looks like some white stuff is coming off of him.  So is he dying, and will the stuff coming off of him release toxins that could hurt the other corals?  Any advise on what I should do would be great.  I have attached a couple of pictures, they aren't very clear but you can see the brown on the top, which is spreading pretty rapidly since it looked good yesterday.
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The answer is YES, this could hurt your other corals.

Here is what I would do.

Take the coral out of the tank.  Rinse the coral off well (using tank water) and remove any loose or dying tissue.  Cut the edge of the coral where any necrosis was happening and rinse again.  Then place the coral back into your tank under high water flow.  Make sure you skimmer is working well and run carbon.  If the coral start to decompose again you may want to remove him and cut the coral into cuttings and some of the cuttings should live.

I you want to be completely safe (i.e. reduce the chance they this coral may kill any of your other corals) you will need to remove him permanently.

Hope that helps.

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Ok well I took him out and tried to rinse him, but as I did he fell apart so I got rid of him.  Is it normal for this to happen so quickly?  It seemed like he was on the mend. 

One more questions, my frogspawn is starting to split, but some of the soft tissue is starting to recede, is this normal when they split or could there be some correlation between the two corals?

 

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Originally posted by aaaj aaaj wrote:

Ok well I took him out and tried to rinse him, but as I did he fell apart so I got rid of him.  Is it normal for this to happen so quickly?  It seemed like he was on the mend. 

If he fell apart then he was already dead and polluting your tank.  I would sill keep you skimmer collecting as much as possible and run carbon for the next week or so.

Originally posted by aaaj aaaj wrote:

One more questions, my frogspawn is starting to split, but some of the soft tissue is starting to recede, is this normal when they split or could there be some correlation between the two corals?

No, the flesh should not be receding.  It is possible the dying leather has something to do with the frogspawn problems (but it could also be other problems).  Skimming and carbon (as stated above) should help fix this problem (if it was caused be the leather).

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Do some water change , too.

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Originally posted by aaaj aaaj wrote:

 Is it normal for this to happen so quickly? 

A friend of mine had a huge yellow Fiji leather that was gorgeous.  She had it for over 3 years.  One day she saw the same type of brown and white spots on it just on the corners.  She didn't have time to do anything about it that day so the next day I got a call to come help her save it.  By that time it was too late the whole think fell apart in my hands as I tried to frag it to save pieces of it. 

So yes, I would say when they die they can go very fast.

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is it a bacteria or fungus? Does anyone know where it comes from?

 

I will just give my warning that your system will flood, bulbs will burn out, and things will take continuous maintenance... get over it.

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Originally posted by kcliao kcliao wrote:

Do some water change , too.

KC

Also a great suggestion.  One I should have mentioned.  In fact this may be more important then the others.

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I did a 50% water change yesterday, and am running carbon and everything is looking better.  I don't have a skimmer and do weekly h2o changes to help compensate.  My frogspawn is still opening up, i'm thinking that he was probably receding because of too high of flow so I moved him and started spot feeding him.  I hope he pulls through.  Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help my corals.
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Originally posted by aaaj aaaj wrote:

Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help my corals.

There are three things I would suggest:

1. Learn by reading books and articles on the subject of keeping coral. (Many books have been suggested in threads here on the MB.)

2. Know your water parameters, especially Alkalinity, Calcium and Nitrate and learn how to properly adjust those levels.

3. Ask questions here and follow the advice received.

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