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Adam Blundell 
Presidency
Joined: June 24 2002
Location: Davis County
Status: Offline
Points: 18526
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 Topic: Recommendations Forum
Posted: January 19 2009 at 10:08am |
Please understand that if your recommendation is not enacted it is not because its a bad recommendation. Or someone doesn't like you. There can be many reasons one is not enacted. Already tried and failed, cost, impractical, logistics etc.
That is very well said.
I agree with Heil. If someone has an issue with the club or presidency they should let me know. So far, I'm not hearing anything. So feel free to pm me anytime or email at [email protected]
Adam
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Come to a meeting, they’re fun!
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Dion Richins
Presidency
Joined: April 03 2005
Location: Farmington
Status: Offline
Points: 11664
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 8:48am |
Hey Bannshy, I would say its accurate.
Non paid would make someone a guest, not a member. Black/white? Membership/volunteerism is going up. Therefore things must be moving in the right direction due to people being happy. Why then must we be constantly defending our decisions to the same "few"
Lately a "few" guests are unhappy with the way the banquet was set up, or where the meeting place is or..... the list goes on. These "few" are in the minority but yet they want the club to bend/change to be what they envision rather than what the majority wants. These "few" chose to neither support the club (being a member) nor support the way the presidency handles the club business.
The election had a clear difference in the way the two candidates wanted the direction of the club to go. That is over and it was handled the way the "few" wanted. Meaning changing procedure at the last minute to make them happy and end any question of voter fraud. The votes were tallied and the overwhelming majority voted for the path we are on.
I'm sorry their agenda was voted down. That they feel sort changed in some way. However I do take a different attitude with posts from supporters of the club that I can count on and believe will do all they can do to help. And guests that do nothing but question everything in an attempt to cause problems.
If the election had been even kinda close then I would need to definitely rethink the direction of our progress.
That being said, Please use the recommendation forum for what it is for. Recommendations of what you think could be improved, Things you would like to see done, Speaker choices, etc. They are all discussed by the presidency.
Please understand that if your recommendation is not enacted it is not because its a bad recommendation. Or someone doesn't like you. There can be many reasons one is not enacted. Already tried and failed, cost, impractical, logistics etc.
Edited by Dion Richins - January 19 2009 at 8:49am
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bannshy
Guest
Joined: November 05 2006
Location: West Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 885
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 8:22am |
 Shane H wrote:
unpaid members |
Unpaid members is really not accurate.
This is a group of Paid Members from the past, maybe the term should be "Fab X"
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Shane H
Presidency
Joined: March 09 2003
Location: Brigham City
Status: Offline
Points: 7921
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 8:11pm |
( I joined the Rebel forces).
John - please expound. Is your intent to help the club, help fellow hobbyists, or just to nit pick the decisions of the presidency. If it is the latter, please explain your motivations. What do you hope to gain?
I really like the recommendations forum, but anymore it seems a place where unpaid members can take shots at the presidency (present or past). The "rebel forces" seem to believe there is some conspiracy behind the choices the presidency making. Its tiring having to defend these decisions at every turn. If the WMAS and utahreefs.com is so evil, why do you come here? We can take this up via PM is you prefer, but I am interested in your motivations.
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Turbostud653
Guest
Joined: March 26 2008
Location: Spanish Fork
Status: Offline
Points: 1388
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 6:54pm |
My option is this:
I like having replies so that one person can state there views and have others input. If it starts to get bad or out of hand, then you could lock the thread.
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Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands.
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jpiotrowski
Guest
Joined: September 30 2004
Location: Tollgate Canyon
Status: Offline
Points: 923
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 8:59pm |
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Obviously, if you keep it like it is you will need to moderate. As with other reccomedation posts the latest one 'turned down a sad road' due to peoples ignorances. Why have a reccomendation tab if people are attacked for their ideas? To a point I really don't care what people say about me but I am not going to jump down people's throats. There were some valid points made, research, but unfortunately there were a lot of the same old people making the same old attacks and not many of them came from the Fab 6 ( I joined the Rebel forces).
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Cameron
Guest
Joined: May 27 2008
Location: West Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 2615
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:46pm |
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[COLOR="Red"](801)664-4240
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tazman1982
Guest
Joined: September 17 2008
Location: west jordan
Status: Offline
Points: 962
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:46pm |
yes dinner was good thanks for saying so. The mash taters and gravy, some lemon pepper chicken. I am glad you liked it!
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75 Reef
55 Reef
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Jeff Morrill
Guest
Joined: December 28 2007
Location: Hope im home!!
Status: Offline
Points: 1325
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:34pm |
see how it gets,.... 
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WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks.
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Cameron
Guest
Joined: May 27 2008
Location: West Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 2615
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:21pm |
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Wow so tempted to say something about your mom and last night.....She liked it.
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[COLOR="Red"](801)664-4240
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Dion Richins
Presidency
Joined: April 03 2005
Location: Farmington
Status: Offline
Points: 11664
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:13pm |
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Wow I didn't know that about you Cameron. Learn something new everyday.....
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tazman1982
Guest
Joined: September 17 2008
Location: west jordan
Status: Offline
Points: 962
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:36pm |
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I ? that at times Cam!! LOL
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75 Reef
55 Reef
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Cameron
Guest
Joined: May 27 2008
Location: West Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 2615
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:33pm |
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I know Jeff. Im not a flamer though
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Jeff Morrill
Guest
Joined: December 28 2007
Location: Hope im home!!
Status: Offline
Points: 1325
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:27pm |
 I still think you cute cammy baby...
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WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks.
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Cameron
Guest
Joined: May 27 2008
Location: West Valley
Status: Offline
Points: 2615
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 2:23pm |
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Jeff, I dont understand why you have a problem with gay people.
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Jeff Morrill
Guest
Joined: December 28 2007
Location: Hope im home!!
Status: Offline
Points: 1325
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:06pm |
Just ban the flamers, Put them in time out , With Deb And Dion. 
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WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks.
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dons
Guest
Joined: October 17 2008
Location: Salt Lake
Status: Offline
Points: 233
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:01pm |
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censorship is never a good thing when it pertains to the workings of the club. Things need to be talked about, hopefully in a civil way. The other post unfortunately went down a sad road. Should the changes pertaining to the club stay in the paid members section, that way you wouldn't have people signing on with a fake account and posting anonymous inflammatory statements.
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Will Spencer
Admin Group
Joined: September 04 2003
Location: West Jordan
Status: Offline
Points: 6799
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:00am |
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What Bluespotjawfish said. I believe if replies are not allowed then they will all be made in separate posts. Then the suggestion really does get buried where no one will ever find it again.
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Bluespotjawfish
Guest
Joined: November 03 2007
Location: San Antonio
Status: Offline
Points: 1478
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 7:27pm |
If you don't allow replies then you end up with 20 threads about the same thing.
Any reply that is inappropriate can be deleted or a PM sent with a warning to correct it by a moderator.
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Home of the baby Picasso!
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Mark Peterson
Paid Member
Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 7:03pm |
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Life can get ugly but that's life. It helps us appreciate the beauty.
My vote is to leave the forum as is.
Besides what good is a recommendation if it cannot create discussion. This is how we all find improvement together.
We are all in this together.
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