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    Posted: August 01 2009 at 11:32am

Adam,

Thanks for posting those pictures.  It looks like most of them are done with a heavy plastic screen with a pvc frame.  Are those pictures of a holding facility or a propagation type setup?
 
Nano Reefer- The best way to get them off the rock is to peel up the foot with your fingernail or a credit card.  When the foot is in a hole it can be almost imposible to get to.  I actually had to break a few pieces of rock to get the hard ones off when moving them to the new tank.  You can try to get them to move on their own by adjusting flow or lighting.  When they are walking the foot is swollen and they are easy to remove.  Some recomend ice on the foot.  Once I made a whole tray of RO/DI water popsicles and couldn't get one to move with them:)  If you can't peel any off the rock I would just turn the rock over on a day you're home and check it every hour to see if they start to move to a  spot that is easy to get to them.  Then, if that doesn't work try pointing one of your powerheads at them.  If you tear the foot a little peeling it of it will probably still make it.  Just take your time and a few breaks if it isn't working out.  Sometimes they start to move and hour later just from the stress you cause on the first attempt.


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In anemone farms where they are feeding the anemones... they can cut them at least once per month.  Sometimes they split them every two weeks. 
In general I would give it a couple months because I don't know how much you are feeding, how much light you have, and things like that.
 
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REALY HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO HEAL I MITE HAVE TO TRY IT
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kay181- if you can take a razor blade and cut it all the way through, all the way in half leaving two half circles, that is the best way to go.
 
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wow way cool you said you just cut them and thay split i have a bta that is geting to big for my tank he is the size of salad plate he has never split  how do get them to
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How do you remove these from the rock without hurting them?  I have about 4 of them I need to get of of the same piece of rock.
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Thanks for the reminder... I forgot about this.  Here are some pics of the carpet lined tanks, and the other common method of using a material like window screen to make baskets.
 
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It is cool to see another successful DIYer.

A few months ago I traded for a 250W MH to light a braceless 75 that was to be a frag tank. With no center brace the top is wide open so I figured a single 250 would light it perfectly, if I could get the light to spread out the full 4 foot length.
So I mapped out the reflective angles and devised a wood frame of plywood and 1x2's. I then carefully cut up the only piece of mirrored aluminum I had left. It needed to fit exactly on the frame without coming up short. It worked! Here are pics of it in the morning when the sun is shining on it. The light comes on from noon to 10PM
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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Awesome Jeremy.Thumbs Up Thanks for sharing.
 
Is there a program you used to create the reflector pattern or did you draw it up yourself?
 
This site explains how to build the reflector.
 
 
This link has the pattern in different formats.  I used the dwg file with a viewer so I could print it out without all the black.  Then I just had it enlarged at Kinkos.
 
 
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Like Adam I have seen the carpet used many times.  It allows you to remove the anemone without any damage or stress to the foot.  If you are able to remove the anemones easy from their current container then I wouldn't worry about.

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well usually you dont want to give the rock away. the reason for not having rock in there is easy access to remove anemones and propagate them

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Awesome Jeremy.Thumbs Up Thanks for sharing.
 
Is there a program you used to create the reflector pattern or did you draw it up yourself?
 
I have taken rocks out of my frag systems and broken them up to sell certain coral or anemone that were attached to one side.
If it were me I would place an inch of Oolitic sand on the bottom and then a layer of LBTR rubble all over the bottom of the tank. The anemones would then each have their own small rock or two. I would imagine the reason for using rug is that most hobbyists and coral farmers do not have access to LBTR.Smile


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we do this too however they arent special enough to have their own tank :)  they live in our clown breeding system
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I agree with Jeremy on that.  Prices for RBTA are all over the place.  The last couple I bought cost me $10 from people in this club.  I see them for $30 all the time at (as in dozens of them) at trade shows.  But I also see them for $80 in local stores. 
Crazy.
 
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Originally posted by ksarcury ksarcury wrote:

Hey Jeremy
 
Very cool!  Where did you get the reflector material you used for the light?
 
Thanks.
 
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The reflector material is 95% reflective german hammertone aluminum and I bought it at a local hydroponics store.  It came in a 2'X4' sheet.   I saw it online from sunlight supply for about $150 shipped for 4 2X4 sheets, but I only needed one sheet.  The local store sold me one piece for $40.  I was originally going to go with the skylight extension tube from Lowes or Homedepot but saw on RC that this stuff is thicker.  Plus, some say the hammertone finish is better.
 
I've seen rose anemones from $90 to $150 in fishstores around here.  They are normally bleached too.  The best way to get one is from someone in your club.  Then you know it is adapted to living in an aquarium, and they are usually much cheaper from another reefer.


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What do RTBA go for?
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Originally posted by Jeremy Jeremy wrote:

 
I've read about the carpet on the archived forums on marine depot but I never did see pictures of anyone that was succesful with it in the tank.  Do you know anyone that uses it?  They actually seem to attach well to the rubbermaid tank.   
 
This is very common.  I have a ton of pics that I'll try to post this weekend.
Also, if the carpet doesn't work out well for you, I'd recommend using something like window screen. 
 
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Hey Jeremy
 
Very cool!  Where did you get the reflector material you used for the light?
 
Thanks.
 
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that is pretty awesome. i wish you the best. part of my frag tank will be for anemone prop, maybe...if i decide to get out of anemones i have a sweet super purple foot RBTA that i picked up from someone in oregon. dont know if it's worth the risk of stinging my corals and other anemones died in move...so may get rid of it.

very nice setup, love it.
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Turbostud,
 
Hopefully one day I'll have a few hundred and supply them to a wholesale place in LA or something like that.  I'm just trying to build up my stock right now.  I've probably traded and sold about 20 so far.  It looks like I have about 50 right now.  Some of them are really small.
 

Jake,

I've read about the carpet on the archived forums on marine depot but I never did see pictures of anyone that was succesful with it in the tank.  Do you know anyone that uses it?  They actually seem to attach well to the rubbermaid tank.   
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