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    Posted: March 08 2010 at 2:50am
So some of you know about the 210 gallon tank I bought last month that ended in tragedy in the driveway while bring it into the house. It ended up looking like this:
 
 
 
Which then left all the LR, LS, coral, and fish to spend the next month living like this:
 
 
 I had these plumbed to a 40 gallon sump in the stand with a protien skimmer!LOL
So I think I should sign this up for tank of the month or maybe the 2010 Reef Tour! What do you think?LOLLOLLOL
 
 
 
 
After a few weeks of trying to find new glass to replace the broken panel I leaned that All Glass Aquariums were on sale for 40% off. So I called around and found John down at Reef Runners who sold me a brand new 210 gallon tank for just alittle more than what it was going to cost for the new glass panel. So here it is my new 210 gallon tank:
 
 
 
Unfortunitly the cat was the only thing that made it in the tank today! Due to the fact one of my overflow kits was missing a bulkhead. Hope to get one tomorrow and get this thing filled! So for now the LR, LS, coral, and fish are here still:
 
 
 
 
 
A few thing I picked up for the tank:
I'm going to try this out on the back of the tank. What do you think? Anyone tried this before? If so how was it?
 
 
Then I got some of this suff to put under my sand for the rocks to sit on:
 
I also have one of these coming in tomorrow sometime:
 
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Edited by arthuriv - March 08 2010 at 2:57pm
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the 210....not so good, but the totes look great!
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what you doing with the broken 210 tank
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Why the eggcrate panel in the sand? Is there some kind of thing going around that rocks should sit on that rather than on the sand or touching the glass bottom?
 
FWIW that's not a good idea and is unecessary. Rocks are not that heavy in water and sitting on the sand is sufficient protection. I usually wiggle and push the base rocks almost down to the glass. They sit there just fine and never sink, unless a sand throwing goby digs under them. (Those guys are murder on a live sand bed anyway so I don't keep them.) 
 
When it comes time to stir the sand the process will stop at the eggcrate. That's going to cause maintenance/tank health problems in the long term. I would not use eggcrate like that.
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It just looks like the eggcrate is going to be used to prevent jumpers no =)? I see it as being on the top of the tank...
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He says on the picture its for UNDER the sand. I wouldn't do it.
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ah =) lol my bad yeah I wouldn't do it either...
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It was suggested to me that if I wanted to have something like a Blue spotted jawfish that digs in the sand that I should place the eggcrate suff under the rocks. Also I have been told it is good for keeping the rock from creating pressure points on the glass.

So your saying I shouldn't use the eggcrate then?
What do you thing of the mirrored film that I'm thinking of putting on the back of the tank?
 
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I wouldn't use the eggcrate either. There are better ways of keeping a jawfish, like a DIY Condo.

Mirrors provide depth, so it could look pretty neat. It'd make the tank look deeper, plus it would provide a way to see back into corners and behinds rocks. I've never really seen it done personally so I can't say. I guess if you didn't like the look you could always take it off. It also depends on how you do your aquascaping. It'd look better with a more open tank. If you have a lot of rocks along the back it probably wouldn't be noticeable.


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I use eggcrate under my sand to prevent the rock from creating pressure points on the sand. As far as there being "better" ways to keep a jawfish, I like to let them dig their own burrow, it's really interesting to watch. If the rock is sitting right on bottom then they can't dig under it to make it collapse. Even if you build them a condo they may not choose to live in it. 
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I was thinking I would stack a pile of rock on one end of the tank and then maybe have a few piece come down the back but not alot and then a few smaller piece here and there as needed but I want to have a nice open sand bed  in the middle and front of the tank. I also want to try and hide the powerheads in the rocks as best as possible as well.
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As for the eggcrate I wasn't planning on putting it throughout the whole tank. I was just thinking I would put it under the large rock pile I'm planning to put on the one end of the tank.
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Had new 3/4" bulkhead picked up for me. Should be ready to install when I get home. Just have to find some help to lift the tank off the block and sit it into the stand so I can finish plumbing it!
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Man I can't wait to see this thing set up =) I love 210s!
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Very cool. I can't wait to see it setup.
I put rock right on the glass bottom before I added sand. Then I saw people using eggcrate like this and thought I had made a mistake with the rock on the glass. But I just left it as it was working and it is still working. I guess the pressure points are not too bad.
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The bottom is tempered glass (in most cases) There is really no need for the egg crate except wanting it. However having a stale area that the under sand water movement cant reach will cause some nasty areas to deal with in the future. If you ever need to move the rock you will release the stinky poisons into your water. I saw a awesome demonstration at MACNA that showed the way water moved under the sand, very neat.
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I agree with Dione and Madreefer.  If you're going to have burrowing fish then just set the base rocks on the bottom before the sand.  If you're really worried about the glass, I've heard of people laying down a sheet of starboard on the glass. It protects the glass without trapping sand and creating stagnant zones.
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Looks like you've got a 210 reptile tank for sale eh? Anyone looking to house a tegu?Tongue
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So the mirrored film is installed on the back. I can tell that was a lot of fun!!! The Jawfish condos are built and in the tank. . Then tonight I started to fill it!!!!! . So far it has 50 gallons, a little sand and a few pieces of live rock in it for tonight. Only have 200 more gallons till the whole system in filled!

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