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Topic: New 75 project Posted: April 13 2010 at 9:29pm |
I have started my new 75, and I just want have a place to show what I'm doing. It's not a thread to brag or show off in, but it's more to show my progress, for good or bad. (I still have the Lee-mar for sale as of 4/13/10 but I hope to sell it soon.) The tank is 48x20x20, custom made with a custom stand. I intend to build almost everything myself, including the tank. Here's the new tank, without silicone: Can you tell which side isn't starphire? Flat polished edges: Stand concept:
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 9:52pm |
Have you thought about putting the overflow on the outside of the tank? Great start, I love watching builds.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 9:57pm |
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Have you thought about putting the overflow on the outside of the tank? Great start, I love watching builds. | I have thought about placing the overflow on the outside, but I'm space limited where this tank will go, so I want to place it as close to the wall as possible. Placing the overflows on the outside on a rimless tank is possible, but not something practical for this tank. If you notch the back glass on a tank like this, you have to be very carefull that you don't inadvertently introduce a weak area, and this takes some special precautions (in my opinion).
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 9:57pm |
The only problem i would see with the overflow on the outside it the distance away from the wall, IMO i don't think it looks that great with a big gap behind the aquarium
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 9:59pm |
FIRE SHRIMP wrote:
The only problem i would see with the overflow on the outside it the distance away from the wall, IMO i don't think it looks that great with a big gap behind the aquarium
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:13pm |
Corey, what sillicone are you using? How thick is the glass? Its looking good.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:15pm |
Stand: Maple with a black glaze, custom-built. I think the stand will be harder than it looks. Sump: To be determined. Possibly this will be the one exception to my DIY madness in that I'll probably just get a standard glass tank that fits the stand. If I get the urge, I'll build one out of acrylic. I want a sump with a nice refugium, a good-sized skimmer, and a good sand bed. Return Pump: It adds heat, but is dead silent and I've had it for a while. I seriously can't hear the pump run. If it contributes to the tank heat too much, I'll swap it out. Overflow: I'm going with the valved drain with an overflow, secondary drain (the "Herbie" method). Again, dead silent and reduces the need for baffles in the sump, etc. due to the lack of air in the drain. Water Motion: Vortech MP40w, probably on the side. I have this already. If it's too ugly, I might even try two Tunze Stream powerheads.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:21pm |
tcfab wrote:
Corey, what sillicone are you using? How thick is the glass? Its looking good.
| I can't tell you which silicone I'm using, sorry. All I can say is that I've had help in choosing it. The glass is 1/2" thick. I am not going very tall, and after doing the calcs, 1/2" seems fine. Thicker glass is beneficial for the joints only, given the height I have. I would have loved to do thicker glass (I see your tank has 3/4" thick glass), but costs and availability of the 3/4" starphire glass pushed my decision to 1/2" glass. I got a deal on the 1/2" starphire glass that I couldn't pass up.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:28pm |
1/2" on a 20" tall tank will be fine. Are you doing a bottom eurobrace?
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:36pm |
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1/2" on a 20" tall tank will be fine. Are you doing a bottom eurobrace? I know which sillicone to use, just making sure you talked to some builders | No, I'm probably not going to do a bottom euro-brace. Seriously, the side joints worry me more than the bottom. I didn't know which silicone to use originally, but I found a couple good ones. It isn't hard to find, really.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:48pm |
Love those pumps, I have to touch it to make sure it is running because you can not hear it. I have two on my 40 with sump and temps still stay under 79 with only 3 computer fans for cooling.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:56pm |
fishoutawater wrote:
Love those pumps, I have to touch it to make sure it is running because you can not hear it. I have two on my 40 with sump and temps still stay under 79 with only 3 computer fans for cooling. | If only they didn't heat up the water so much, I'd use the Velocity/Blueline/Poseidon titanium T4 pump every time. I will try it this time.
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 10:56pm |
poseidon pumps are great for smaller aquariums
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 11:04pm |
Lighting: I'm leaning toward all T5's, but this could change. We'll see. I gotta build a tank first.
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 9:29pm |
I would recommend a eurobrace on the bottom it doubles up your glue joint surface area and the bottom of the tank has the most pressure. If you look at the high end tank manufacturers you'll find the bracing on the bottom, it's cheap insurance! I dont know what silicone your using but I recommend momentive rtv 100 series, it's a addhesive silicone. I have used it several times with zero failures. And if it is good enough for LeeMar it's good enough for me ;). Just my two cents. Looks good!
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 10:11pm |
laynframe wrote:
I would recommend a eurobrace on the bottom it doubles up your glue joint surface area and the bottom of the tank has the most pressure. If you look at the high end tank manufacturers you'll find the bracing on the bottom, it's cheap insurance! I dont know what silicone your using but I recommend momentive rtv 100 series, it's a addhesive silicone. I have used it several times with zero failures. And if it is good enough for LeeMar it's good enough for me ;). Just my two cents. Looks good! | The hydrostatic force at the bottom of a 24" tall tank (with top eurobracing) that the silicone has to resist is about 80 pounds per linear foot, or about 13 psi on a 1/2" joint. My Lee-mar tank is like this. The hydrostatic force at the bottom of a 20" tall rimless tank is about 70 lbs per linear foot, or about 12 psi for a 1/2" joint. There are significant flexural forces in a rimless that in which the ratio of the length to height is greater than 2, which includes my tank, and I'm not including this. I think eurobracing is fine, but probably overkill, though. I look at it as a belt & suspenders approach, which isn't bad. I'll look into it. I am trying a certain kind of silicone, but here are some examples of the recommended silicones out there for aquariums: Dow Corning 732 GE (Momentive) RTV 108 Perennator AQ 201 (the packaging, although in german, seems awfully close to the Aqueon stuff) Aqueon aquarium silicone GE silicone I There are UV-set glues out there as well that will bond glass to PVC, etc. but these are expensive and require a UV light to cure.
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 10:45pm |
Here's the stand: The TANK BUILDING stand, that is. I'm going to put the tank together on this. With a few tricks, I have this 4'x8' table really, really flat. Really flat.
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 10:50pm |
I have the silicone, tape, alcohol, etc. I hope to get going Saturday. I bought extra silicone so that when I screw up and redo the tank, it's no problem. Murphy says that I'll get it right the second or third time around.
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Posted: April 23 2010 at 5:29pm |
How about Ottoseal S28? Is that any good for something like this?
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Posted: April 23 2010 at 7:25pm |
Lets see some silicone going on already
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