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Topic: 2 clown triggers dead.. Posted: January 15 2011 at 12:14am |
You stated earlier that you alk was 27dkh. I personally think the "better purchase" would be a salifert alk and a salifert cal test kit. Get those in range and your fish will live.
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Posted: January 14 2011 at 10:43pm |
I have no experience with protien skimmers, having never run one, but I would recommend using www.bulkreefsupply.com for the RO unit. I got a pretty nice one for Christmas, clearly more than the entry level, but their suff is top notch. I love the online videos that show step by step install instructions for all their equipment. We really like drinking RO water too, so I have it plumbed to a side faucet on the sink as well as through my fridge & ice maker.
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Posted: January 14 2011 at 10:31pm |
Dude aquatic dreams in layton will test your water for free. They also sale RO water for 25 cents a gallon. So you could use that until you get a RO unit
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Posted: January 14 2011 at 9:43pm |
Hello all, I talked to Mark, and he insisted i double check what my Alk, and Calcium levels are at.. my little card kit does not have a calcium tester, and the Alk card only reads from 2.7-3.2 and the color is darker than the card shows.
So if anyone has a alk kit, and wouldn't mind testing my water, i would highly appretiate it, i can come to you if you live somewhat close, (roy to bountiful)
Also need some micro algea, if anyone has some to get rid of.
And despite what is wrong with my tank, what would be better purchase? RO unit or Protein Skimmer?
Bird world has a Turbo Floater 1000 (up tp 250g) Protein skimmer on sale for $150..
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Posted: January 04 2011 at 7:40am |
Hererra, are you there? You really need to call. We could clear up a lot of things in an instant if you would.
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Posted: January 03 2011 at 11:19pm |
Yup
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Posted: January 03 2011 at 10:38pm |
27 DkH isn't that about 3 times too much?
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Posted: January 03 2011 at 7:38pm |
Connie wrote:
I have never bought a fish from Bird World that lived. Yet I have never had one from Aquatic or The Aquarium that didn't.
Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what Bird World keeps their SG at? |
I've had a few fish from Birdworld I bought the last one a year ago and I still have them all today, whereas I can't say the same for the aquarium. I don't think fish losses can be chalked up to a single LFS, I believe that 90% of livestock mortality in this hobby is caused by the hobbyist. That's why reef clubs are so important in helping educate hobbyists in how to better care for livestock. I know when I first started in aquariums I burned through my share of fish, now I have what I consider to be a great track record with my purchases.
To answer your question about dKh it means degrees of carbonate hardness (it's a measure of alk)
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Posted: January 03 2011 at 5:23pm |
by the way that alk is DKH
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Posted: December 26 2010 at 8:36am |
I have never bought a fish from Bird World that lived. Yet I have never had one from Aquatic or The Aquarium that didn't.
Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what Bird World keeps their SG at?
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I have flying monkeys and I'm not afraid to use them.
180 gallon money pit that I love.....
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Posted: December 26 2010 at 1:53am |
Your tank should be able to handle any added nitrate from tap water, and if your alk is that high, an RO unit will not fix it...
Marks number is on the bottom of his post (in his signature). He is a great guy, and knows a lot about this stuff.
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Posted: December 25 2010 at 9:26pm |
Mark pm your number, and time you are available to talk. thanks
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Posted: December 25 2010 at 9:25pm |
i'm quite sure he said alk was 27.
iv'e talked to this guy alot in the past. he's a good guy. he told me an RO unit should solve the alk, and nitrate which is the only problem the tank is seeing. he even told me buy from ebay.. so he was not trying to sell anything..
my pump turns 1225 gph
x2 koriala 3&4
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Posted: December 25 2010 at 9:55am |
27 is probably not the correct number. I'll bet it's 2.7 meq/l but we need Herrera to verify that. Normal range is generally 3.0-5.0 mil equivalent/liter, so it's slightly low. Herrera does not need to spend more than $1 to fix this whole problem. It boils down to having the right understanding and making some simple changes to the tank. It would sure help if Herrera would call me. A 10 minute conversation could settle a lot of this and make it possible to keep a Clown Trigger.
Edited by Mark Peterson - December 25 2010 at 10:28am
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Posted: December 24 2010 at 11:38pm |
RO water will help bring your Alk down by not adding any more from the tap. That seems like spitting into a 5 gallon bucket hoping to fill it up.
You have big problems in that you have "200 lbs" of LR and it can't support what you currently have. You need time and better/more flow to help get that LR going. Your LR looks like a brick wall. If it's riddled with gaps and openings, then you probably need more flow to utilize them. How many times an hour are you turning over your tank water? (Add powerhead and pump ratings up using GPH and divide that by your tank's gallons)
As for that scarey Alk of 27, I'm going to watch with interest to see how you can bring that down without having coral in there to use it. With those numbers there are probably more people here surprised your fish are alive than there are that they are dieing.
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Posted: December 24 2010 at 9:42pm |
"fish guy" is trying to sell you a RO unit (and everything else under the sun until your problem goes away or you become bankrupt). This is hopeless -- best of luck to you.
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Posted: December 24 2010 at 6:36pm |
herrera wrote:
hey guys! i have had my 120g set up since July. i have had 3 deaths since then.
Singapore angel (aug. lived for 1week)
Clown Trigger (sep. lived for 12 days)
Clown Trigger(Nov. lived for 5days!!)
of course all of my other fish are healthy and worth$10 each.
the sole reason i got into saltwater was for my fasination of Clown triggers!!! lol
any input on what can be going on?
i was told wild caught clown triggers, are very hard to keep healthy. not that i'm aware if mine were wild or tank raised..
Salinity is 1.024
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first off you don't have a long enough tank for a clown trigger. You can do nigers, huma huma, blue jaw. Not clown though
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Posted: December 24 2010 at 5:58pm |
will this RO unit be good enough?
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Posted: December 24 2010 at 5:53pm |
vadryn wrote:
You bring up two things that I discussed - just a little more bluntly than I was.
I commented on the immaturity of the tank based on the pictures in combination with it's inability to handle the bio-load of fish like Triggers. I too suggested more LS and LR and time.
I think that Mark's latest comment is the most meaningful... "Have you made any of our suggested changes to the tank yet?" I'm in the same place as Mark, wanting to see the rubber hit the road with things that CAN be done instead of doing irrelevent and expensive things (RO) or just wasting time discussing the salinity at Bird World and trying to figure out if we can blame someone else for the dead fish.
I want to see some progress so he can successfully keep the fish he wants to keep in a month or two. I think we all want to see success. |
well unless im skipping some threads, most of the suggestions have been to add more LR/LS and some chaeto
i have 200lbs in the main tank. how much do i need??
also someone sayed i had 200lbs of dead rock? why you say that??
went to fs to have water tested.
here's the results..
ammonia 0
nitrites .1
nitrates 20
alk 27
calcium 500
fish guy said it's a huge suggestion to get RO especially for fish FO. and that it will reduce the trates and alk.
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Posted: December 22 2010 at 10:21am |
Sorry if you thought I was confused im not they are tank raised/reared. caught as fry and then raised for year-years in a tank.
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