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    Posted: December 14 2004 at 10:35am

Well yesterday wasn't a fun day for me and today I'm still feeling pretty bad.

I have some pale green zoanthids in my main reef that grow like MAD.  They have become a nuisance as everything they touch they either grow over or kill.  Yesterday I finally started ripping apart my tank to get them off the rocks. I got the rocks out and scraped the zoos off the rocks.

After about an hour of cleaning off the rocks, I start to feel very tight-chested and can hardly breath.  I put the remaining rock back into the tank and go lie down.  My wife came in and I was shaking and sweating.  She took my vitals and temp.

My blood pressure had dropped like a rock.  Mine is usually very high at around 160/100 ish.  Yesterday it was at 105/65.  Pulse was very high at around 100.  Temp measured at 103-104.  My wife pumped me full of drugs and said we're going to the ER.  Of course being a male, I refused.

I made it through the night ok and my bp is still around the same, pulse still high, but my temp has stabilized and I'm feeling much better.  I feel somewhat like I have a very bad hangover.

I directly attribute this to the zoanthids and the polytoxin that some of the species carry.  I will never touch zoos again without rubber gloves and I want to urge you all to do the same.

I usually don't post my dumb@ss experiences, but I feel that I needed to share this one.

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Sean, You might want to get a checkup just in case. There's a guy in the club that ended up with three months of heart problems because of coral toxicity issues. Sorry to hear of your experience, but glad you're pulling through it.

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Sean - wow that's aweful!  There is quite a bit written about palythoa poisoning on reef central.  I worry about it too.  I could see how you could release a ton of toxins with about 3 square feet covered with those zoos.  Is everything in your tank ok?  I agree with Mark - have a check-up.  Docs may have never even heard of it because it's rare around here.   You may want to take some literature in (although I just did a medical search and couldn't find a thing).
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I am sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better and dont have any future problems with this.
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Wow Sean ... that sounds awful!  Keep us up to date on your condition. That stuff is pretty scary!


I always use rubber surgical gloves and protective eyewear when I frag my zoos. Did you take the rocks out of your tank to clean them? Did you have zoo slime all over your hands or any open cuts, etc?

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It is amazing how beautiful yet toxic these things can be. I read where a guys dog drank water from his ref and was dead an hour later....
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Sean! Your "normal" BP is 160/100?! You are hypertensive and
need drugs!!!

Heart dzz is called "the silent killer" for a reason!

You are too young to high a bp that high. I want you to live to
be a grandpa, so go to your md.
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Originally posted by Suzy Suzy wrote:

Sean! Your "normal" BP is 160/100?! You are hypertensive and
need drugs!!!

That's exactly what my wife just said.

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Corey - I did take the rock out of the tank and was scraping off the zoos with a knife.  I did cut myself on the finger while cleaning the rocks off and there was TONS of slime.  I'm sure thats why it was so bad.

I know that my BP is all out of whack.  I've tried everything but beta blockers and I won't take them.  I really need to exercise and lose some weight.  That's going to be my New Year's resolution.

I just woke up from a 2 hour nap, still feeling pretty crappy.

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There is a BetaBlocker/ACE combo that is very effective. What
do you have against BB?
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