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Topic: tank temp Posted: March 05 2011 at 8:26pm |
my tank is usually around 78-79 degrees right now it is 81 I have changed nothing. what is the highest it should get and how do I keep it from gettin higher.
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 9:23pm |
Tis the season to start watching tank temps without a Chiller.
Heater to warm it up.
Chiller to cool it down.
I knew a Guy who's Reef tank seen 88 degrees and not lose any livestock.
How long had your lights been on.Using Halides?
Lights are largely responible for temp increases.
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 9:35pm |
no just dual t-5's bout 6 hrs
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 9:55pm |
I have a Red Sea so it is all inclosed. I've read that a lot of people use fans on an open top. I bought a chiller a couple months ago and my heater is set at 70. I have no concern about the lower temp just because of where my tank is located. However, my chiller is probably one of the best investments I think I've made. Running right now 77 deg. period. You'll find summer can be a battle on tank temp. Just watch how many cyano outbreaks happen around July-August time frame. I think it has a lot to do with temp, however I could be wrong.
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 10:36pm |
The warmer weather warms up the inside of the house which means that the tank warms up too. Turn down the teperature on the heater to 75 or lower, or even better, unplug it. We don't really need to use heaters, especially from April to September.
Reef aquariums, just like the ocean, need to be open to the atmosphere. If the tank has a closed hood, crack it open just an inch or place a small fan in the hood blowing air down on the water with a way for humid air to blow out.
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 10:59pm |
yea i never close my hood im actaully gonna be takin it off when i can transfer my stuff to my other tank. and my heaters are on like 76 but I will just put the one in the sump on low 70's and turn other one in my main tank off.
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 11:18pm |
I actually ran one of my tanks for 2 years with no heater. There is a temp swing, but I really don't get the use of a heater if your tank never drops below....say 73 deg. So why would you have 2 heaters? What am I missing?
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Posted: March 05 2011 at 11:31pm |
I have two 150 w heaters one in my tank in the over flow and one in my sump. Was told that way if one went out I had the other. I guess when they go out sometimes they stay on high. so with them bein little they dont fry my fish.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:05am |
So what if both your heaters went out?????? What would your house hold the temp at? If you lose power, lights are going to be of more concern. This is a nonforgiving hobby! Are hobbists trying to keep a temp between 2 and 4 deg variance? The only reason I have my heater set to 70 is.....I can't even give myself a reasonable answer.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:21am |
well the odds of one goin out is less than both goin out at the same time.is possible though.my house temp in the winter is usually never below 75 and summer never above 80. think reason it got hot today is heater was turned to 83 damn kids lol. but yea there are alot of scenerios.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:29am |
I set my house temp at 67 during winter and my tank never falls below 73 deg. Maybe your fighting something that doesn't really matter?
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:37am |
Stability in a reef is always a good thing. I have always had two heaters, one running normally at 75.5, and the other set to come on at 72 in case for some reason one stops working. I do have a chiller that is also set up to run on my controller, as well as alarms and protocols to prevent over heating. I have 2 fans that will turn on should the chiller fail, and if the temp continues to rise the lights will turn off. Stability=Success IMO, so I have backups for pretty much everything, and my temp never varies by more than 1 degree (75-76). I think it's especially important when you start keeping more sensitive/expensive livestock if for no other reason than to protect your investment.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:40am |
CapnMorgan wrote:
, and my temp never varies by more than 1 degree (75-76).. |
That's good info, thanks
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:46am |
Another thing I've ran into is that most heater thermostats are not very accurate usually +/- 5 degrees. I would recommend that everyone have a controller, if for nothing else than to control your heater. You can get the Reef Keeper Lite, with temp probe, bus cables, and a power bar (enough outlets to automate 2 light plugs, a heater, and a fan) for only $99. It will be money well spent for peace of mind.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:48am |
I came home tonight to see my rsm was at 74 and it always stays normally 78.. I freaked but I guess in reality I am ok?? I guess the button was accidentally turned off
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:52am |
ptronsp wrote:
I came home tonight to see my rsm was at 74 and it always stays normally 78.. I freaked but I guess in reality I am ok?? I guess the button was accidentally turned off
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You're ok at 74. It's only when your temp starts to drop below 72 that you really need to worry about losing anything, and even then it has to stay there for a few hours. That's why I have my backup heater. IME heaters fail more than any other piece of equipment I've ever owned, so I don't trust them anymore.
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 12:56am |
Thanks Steve, that makes me feel better :) Pam
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 1:02am |
Anytime
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 1:35am |
I don't disagree but actually the temp can get down to 65 and most everything will be okay. The reason for this is that with low temp comes much higher dissolved Oxygen and lower CO2. It's like putting an Oxygen mask on a stressed person.
Steve, what kinds of heaters have you had bad experience with?
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 6:18am |
Well I've had 2 marineland stealth heaters (300w) fry themselves on my small tank, along with a Hydor Theo (400w) and a Rena Smart heater (300w) on the big one. Ever since the last incident on my 180 (a year in April) I've been running a pair of 500w titanium heaters from Via Aqua. One heating the tank and one as a backup, they've been great thus far but as you can see I don't have the best of luck with heaters.
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