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Hello everyone,
I recently bought 75 gallon tank off of KSL.   This is my first attempt with a salt water aquarium.  I had a 5 gallon freshwater setup for several years during college. 
 
Currently, I am still researching equipment to finish off the aquarium; lights (LED), heater, and a controller (possibly).  I should have my live rock in the tank sometime this week and begin cycling.  Mike, at Aquarium Masters, has been very helpful getting me starting and answering my questions.  I've also been reading up a lot on here as well.  Unfortunately, I won't be in town for the Reef Tour this year.  I look forward to learning a lot more in the coming months and years. 
 
My setup so far includes:
75 gallon All-Glass with one overflow chamber
~20 gallon sump
Euro-reef skimmer
Closed loop circulation system, 480gph (corrected)
80lbs of live rock
Aragonite substrate
 
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Welcome.
What LED lights? Aqua Illuminations, DIY, Maxspect?


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Jason, it looks like things are coming together for you, and welcome to WMAS! Looking at the list of things you have you'll want to up the flow of your closed loop by a lot. Reefs require much more water flow than a fish only or freshwater tank. Many reefs have upwards of 25 times water turnover. Just keep on researching everything, and feel free to post any questions you have, we're here to help! 
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I've looked at a few LED systems and am leaning toward Aqua Illuminations.  

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Sorry.. I had my pumps backwards.  The closed loop is running a Poseidon PS4 which is rated at 480 gph.  
Which means the PS3 (240 gph) is on the sump return.  I had to throttle back to this pump about 40-50% to keep the overflow from "flushing".  I do have a homemade durso pipe in the overflow.  Any ideas how to increase sump return and still maintain relatively quiet operation?
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That's much better LOL. What size piping are you using for the durso? It usually helps stop flushing by reducing the piping as it goes through the bulkhead. So if you have a 1" bulkhead use 1.5" piping for the durso and then reduce it to fit the bulkhead at the bottom. This creates a stronger suction and helps prevent the "toilet effect" Big smile

P.S. those poseidons are nice pumps!
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1900 gph is roughly a good estimation on flow for a 75. PM Boysty about his flow on his 90, it's insane.
Why Aqua Illuminations? it would be $1200 for your lighting that way, DIY LEDs is quite abit cheaper.
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CapnMorgan,  the durso pipe reduces from 1-1/4" to 1" through the bulkhead. 

Josh95,   I have not researched much into the DIY LED systems.  I know I  have the ability to wire up a system, but that will take more research.  From what I've read, the AI system is very high quality, modular, has excellent customer service, and is made in the US.  
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Welcome to the club!  You will find lots of useful information.
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welcome,
i have to say i love A.I. LEDS too. as far as a controller i would recommend the digital aquatics reefkeeper lite. i just got one i love it!!!! i am very very familliar with neptune systems and say the reefkeeper is much easier and much cheaper starts at 120$.
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Thanks for all the welcomes..  

dc,  Thanks for your input.  I have been reading up on both the Reefkeeper Lite and the Apex.  Being new to large aquariums, I am amazed by how many electrical outlets are needed.  I am expecting to need:
2 for pumps
1 for the skimmer
2-3 for lights
1 for a heater
 
I see the downside of the Reefkeeper is that I'll need two PC4 modules instead on one Energy Bar 8.
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no problem, yeah thats about right i have a 72. my out lets are; 1-pump,1-skimmer,1-heater,3-powerheads,3-lights,1-fan and 1-grounding probe.  looks like you got it. just powerheads and a grounding probe. i only control (reefkeeper at this time) heater,lights and fan. i got mine for temp control. works super. the best money i have ever spent!

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oh yes you would need more PC4s but i belive they are 85$ i think
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DIY systems are definatly a lot cheaper. If you figured out how that AI system hooked up into the circuitry of the LEDs (which i think its just a control inside the system that changes the amperage of the outputs) then you could possibly wire that up into it. I havent seen how they have things set up though so its just a thought. Any idea what that system actually controls? You could probably wire something up on your own. Wiring up the LEDs themselves is actually a very basic system.
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Any ideas how to increase sump return and still maintain relatively quiet operation?
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Luckily my tank went through a quick cycle.  Mike at Aquarium Masters checked my water on Monday and cleared me to begin slowly adding livestock.  I was noticing some fuzzy algae on my rocks so I took home 10 hermit crabs and 6 snails. 

On Wednesday, I finally got my lights put in.  I went with Aqua Illuminations Sol (white version).  I ordered a AI controller to use until the new Apex Jr is released.   Without the controller the lights are either off or 100%.  At 100% the lights are crazy bright.  I mounted my lights with some wire cable inside of the canopy.  I think I need to tilt both lights toward the center a little bit to get rid of the dark spot in the center of my tank.


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Quick picture from my cell phone.  I knocked a plastic cup into the tank when I was putting the canopy back on. 
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looks good!
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Looking good, have you added any macro algae. If not and you would like some just let me know.
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Thanks everyone. 

Jaschall, I would like to get some macro growing soon.  I'll be in touch.
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