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    Posted: June 10 2011 at 10:37am
Unfortunately this is my first tank, so you will all be called on for help with many of my stupid questions.

So a couple of nights ago my wife found me a 75 Gallon (I was told 85, but did the math and it is 75) Acrylic Aquarium on KSL.  It came with a lot of things, but was a freshwater tank. 
Here is what the tank came with:

2-ZOO-Med Power Sweep 228 PS40
Fluval 304 Canister Filter
Tank Thermometer
Lights

At first I was thinking I would just do an awesome African Cichlid tank, but the more I thought about it, the more I wanted to start a Saltwater tank.  Before making the decision I looked into what the capabilities of the equipment the tank came with were vs what I would need. 

Here is what I found:

The Canister Filter (Though not Ideal) will work while I am cycling/ setting up the tank.  From what I understand, it would even work for a fish only tank, though I would like to go reef eventually.  The canister runs at 260 gal/hr, 1000 L/hr.  So I think it will work fine for now.

Each of the ZOO Meds runs 280 gal/hr, and I have found quite a few instances of them being used in Marine tanks for wave making.

From what I saw, I had enough to at least get the tank started, though there are a number of things I still needed:

Sand- 70-80lbs
Rock
Protein Skimmer
Sump (10 or 20 Gallon)
Overflow Box
Heater(s)
Salt
More Lighting

I did go to Reef Runners and talk to John about the system and what my plans were.  He confirmed my suspicion that my tank would be able to set up based on what equipment I currently had, and helped me to identify the needs of the tank (basically on par with the above list).

I purchased a couple of things from John to get started:

80lbs of non living sand
15 lbs of live rock
Salt
Cleaner Magnet

John is a really good guy and probably one of the most helpful saltwater stores I have been to.  I really recommend him/ Reef Runners.  He even offered to lend me water containers to take water for filling my tank (unfortunately I have no way to move that kind of volume in any of my vehicles).

I went home, and rinsed and rinsed and rinsed the sand, but it still came out pretty cloudy.  I don't think it is considered milky though, so I think I am good.  I got the sand and rock in the tank and hooked everything up.  I even painted the stand earlier, so I think the set up looks pretty good for now, though I will not put anything in the water till I get some water testing equipment and do more research.  I may start construction on the sump as early as tonight, though I need to learn a little more about drilling the glass etc.

Here is the tank as it sits:


If I am completely off on anything, please tell me now so i don't spend money on things I don't need to, or kill anything that doesn't deserve to die due to my lack of knowledge.  I want to do this right, though I understand doing it right, and making a perfect tank are two totally different things.

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Went to the store to get a heater, and tools to begin building my sump. They happened to have a used sump and sold it to me for $30 which I thought was a steal. I also got a pump and some other things. I put the raw shrimp in the tank as well.



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Congrats and welcome to the obsession. My only concern is your magnet, bio balls, and lighting. Did you get one for acrylic? I had a 210 acrylic tank and my only frustration was trying to clean the tank. Be very careful of scratches. Lose the bio balls they are nitrate magnets, find out what you want to keep and get the appropriate light for that. Keep in mind that in the long run, you will want stonies ( acros) save the headaches now and buy the right lighting from the start... 

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^Thanks.  I did make sure to get the acrylic magnet.  I was planning to ditch the bio balls.  I want to put sand in there as well as the heater and a few things.  I would like to do all the plumbing and get the sump moving tomorrow if possible.  I found a few overflow boxes locally so I want to pick one up and get this thing moving. 
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Man you should have been on here last week when I got rid of everything you would need for that tank:(
Looking good so far, as Connie said you will need to upgrade your lighting. I would also get as much live rock as possible that you will want in there it helps the cycle and see if someone has a scoop of live sand to seed your sand:) I would volunteer but as of last week I only have a small tank:(
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I have lots of live sand. I would be happy to get you stated with seeding your tank. I am in West Jordan...
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^That would be really helpful Connie, and maybe I can check out your tank too!

Ok today I ran my first water test.  The tank has been running for 3 days now.


Here is what I pulled:




PH-7.8

Ammonia- .25

Nitrite- 0.0

Nitrate- 10

Salinity- 1.024

Temp- 79


Am I on the right track here?


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Looking good. Your ammonia needs to be 0 before anything is added:) However the color on the pic looks at 0 to me not .25 but they are so hard to tell apart!
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^yeah my wife says it's 0 but those two are so close it's tough. I figured it's better safe than sorry.
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Here are a couple of pictures I took with my waterproof camera today.  I should say, these are the first underwater pics I have ever taken with it either:






Seems pretty clear, just nothing interesting to really see yet.

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Ok tonight was well, umm, eventful.


I started buy getting 6lbs of live rock to put into the sump, and another lb of live rock for the tank.






I got everything loaded up and hooked up, then Realized I had no idea how to get the overflow box/ sump to operate together/ correctly :(


I just really had a hard time finding that perfect balance between where the water enters the overflow box and how fast it leaves the sump.  I am thinking that the Sump is too small even though I have been told by a couple of people it is a good size. 


After a few floods (luckily nothing made it out of the bottom of the stand, though it was close), I was able to get the pump (Rio 1400) to pump out the water at the same rate that the overflow was bringing the water into the sump.  My issue is that the tank water level is maybe an inch from the top now rather than a few centimeters.  I guess this is ok because if I put more water in than the sump will overflow/ throw off the balance, and I need the sump to stay at the current level so it doesn't flood if the power goes out.


So I think that it is about where it needs to be for now.  Here is where it is at running in balance:










I also tested the water tonight:


PH- 8.0

Nitrate-20

Nitrite- 0

Ammonia- .5


I guess I wouldn't say it has really spiked yet, it seems to be going fairly smoothly, though the nitrate is going up slightly.

I also picked up a really big Skimmer, so big, it is too big.  If anyone has a good sized skimmer for a 75 gallon tank and wants to trade for a skimmer more suited for the 180+ tanks, please let me know.  If not, I will probably end up making a much larger sump and using it anyway.

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I was having a hard time hooking up my skimmer (Probably too big, but I am going to run it anyway).  The skimmer wouldn't fit in my tiny little sump, so I got creative on how to add on to my already running sump.  I measured out the openings and dimensions of my tank stand and determined that nothing bigger would fit in there.  So I bought a 41 quart tupperware storage container from walmart.  I went with this because I knew it could bend and fit into the stand (barely).  I was able to bend it just enough to slide it in through the front door, and in between the side supports.  With a little work I got it under the sump.  Once it was under the sump, I got my drill out, tipped the sump back to keep the acrylic from getting into the water, and drilled holes on the end of the sump to let the water fill up the tuperware addition.  I then placed the skimmer and power head in the new section and plugged it all in.  I also drilled holes in the return lines just below the water line to stop the water from siphoning when the pump stopped.  I think I finally have this thing set up the correct way. 


Next I will look into improved lighting and a UV Sterilizer.





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Well, I bit the bullet and bought the 65lbs of Live rock I was missing.  I ended up going to Rock n Reef.  They had an excellent selection on a new order.  I went to 6 stores this week looking for rock, and none of them came close to the selection I found here.

I got:

41lbs of Florida Live Rock


4 lbs of Fiji Branch Live Rock


20 lbs of the PRIMO Fiji Live Rock

(I Think these were the names of the rocks I got, but I need to double check so I can update my journal)


Pictures? Glad you asked...


This is the Primo stuff:



And the set up...







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Ok my cycle is moving a bit more now with the live rock and some Bio-Spira.



PH-8.2/8.4
Nitrite-.25
Nitrate- 20
Ammonia- .25

I am interested to see how much of a spike I really get though. 
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what type of lighting were you thinking?

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So this guy just showed up.  Good or Bad?  Any idea what type of anenome he is exactly?


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Ok after researching, it is Aiptasia.  Peppermint shrimp are moving in today. 
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Originally posted by Seth Seth wrote:

what type of lighting were you thinking?



I think I will order one of those t5 systems with the LED moonlights that Bill was telling me about.  Just like the one on your display tank, but a 48 inch set up.
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Are you talking about the MH/t5 set up over the xenia tank? if so that is a good choice. He can get those in for AMAZING prices! 
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^yep that one.  He already quoted me on one for my tank, I am just waiting to get paid. :)
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