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    Posted: September 10 2011 at 3:51pm

I wanted to use this post as a blog type entry to recieve comments or suggestions on my first Successful Batch.

Last night my Maroon eggs hatched, and night before that was the perc eggs that hatched.
 
I caught them all using a turkey baster and put them in my larva section.
 
I have put a ton of rotifers in the section but woke up this morning and found about half of the larva dead.
 
I added a bubbler into the section thinking it needed more oxygen and flow.
 
So far so good, I'll keep everyone updated.
 
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That is terrific! Thumbs Up. When I first started out raising clowns it took me awhile to get it down to have more larvae live then when I initially started. I still have quite a bit of loss so you just have to be patient and keep trying.

 The turkey baster method catching them may possibly be to stressful and therefore cause too much motion and maybe causing the death as well.
 Make sure they get plenty of rotifers? Are you using the green water method? Also, can you take a pic of the set up you decided to go with for the grow out?

  This is awesome! Congrats!


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I was trying to think of other ways to catch them, I wasn't fond of the net to catch them fearing it would hurt them and them being out of the water.
I do have plenty of rotifers in there and I add more about three times a day to keep it thick.  I am using the green water method, and I add some of the greenwater once per day.
 
I will absolutely get some pics up asap.
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The way I did it when mine were laying, was simple someone would hold the light at the top near the water and when alot gathered I would dip a cup and catch them, it works really good I cought about 90% everytime

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I thought about that, and I tried using airline tubing as a suction to a container outside the tank, as if I was doing a water change.  Problem is those little buggers are quick.  You get next to them and start sucking with the turkey baster and they take off like a rocket!
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Try the cup thing it works keep it close to the light so that they will have less chance to scape and slowly submerge it, if you ever come to salt lake I can show you how I do it so yoy can get a better idea
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Do what Dave said, use a flashlight and a cup - it really works!
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Yep, we use a clear cup and scoop them out with the flashlight. Works like a charm!
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That's great Kevin. Clap

Dave, do you give them to Pam or to Russ&Kathy to be raised?

Where are Russ and Kathy anyway? Haven't seen them here for a long time.
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I was giving them to pam but they stoped laying although I think they might be laying behind the rock but I cant really tell

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I'll keep the idea about the cup in mind, yeah that might be a lot easier.

I'm finding I'm going through rotifers very quickly, I have two 5 gal buckets and I'm not sure if they can reproduce quick enough to keep up with the demand.  Tomorrow I'm headed to BSD to get some algae paste and darken that water up pretty good!

Here is a pic of the tank.  - I've used plastic dividers and have attached plastic cross stitch material.  It's a hard plastic that keeps everyone in their own place.  You can see on the left is the separate tank I have the babies in.


Here is an above view of the babies separate tank.  - It's an acclimitization box that elite aquatics made that has slits on the side.  I got some fine material and covered the slits.  It allows a touch of flow and I add water into it to flush any bad water out through the cloth.  I use that same cloth to catch my rotifers so I know it's very tightly woven, and as you can see I added the bubbler.


With the babies I have left I think I've made it over the first hurdle - I can see they have full bellies from all the rotifers they have been chowing down on.
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This is awesome! Yep, their cute little bellies are nice and silver when they are full of rotifers :). You should be very proud.

  Russ and Kathy had a crash and lost a lot of babies. They since have been so busy I don't believe they have been raising larvae lately.
 I was able to raise 8 baby maroons :). I know that sounds lame , but these little buggers were hard for me compared to my Mochas.

 I can't wait until my clowns start laying again.
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Originally posted by ptronsp ptronsp wrote:

This is awesome! Yep, their cute little bellies are nice and silver when they are full of rotifers :). You should be very proud.  Russ and Kathy had a crash and lost a lot of babies. They since have been so busy I don't believe they have been raising larvae lately. I was able to raise 8 baby maroons :). I know that sounds lame , but these little buggers were hard for me compared to my Mochas.  I can't wait until my clowns start laying again. Pam


After so many tries I think 8 is a good number pam, im pretty sure mine are laying but I just cant see them I tried looking for the through the window outside my house but the glass is covered with coraline i cant see anything through the glass, but once I can get scrape it off or the star laying on a spot where I can see ill let you know pam
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 Thumbs Up I LOVE it!


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Hmmm well I'm now down to two and I still have rotifers in there and I really only found one dead guy on the bottom as I was cleaning the bottom the their tank.
I've looked over everything and can't find anywhere they could get out.

I have gotten what appears to be dead rotifers on the bottom layer of their tank - could this be causing a problem?
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Mark is going to be much more equipped to help you with your set up. From what I have seen of yours and his, they are very close to the same kind of set up. I raise my clowns in 10 gallon, bare bottom tanks. If I have a problem with the rotifers I can just vacuum the bottom of the tank to clear them. I can clearly see the free swimming rotifers and I keep my water much greener then yours.

  My basic set up is a sponge filter, heater, cheato and bubbler.. that's it. I don't use sand, rock or anything else. Once the babies get a little larger and go through meta I add a clay pot and maybe a piece of LR.

 Remember one they go through meta it is very difficult for them. You will also have loss there. I have found depending on the species it usually is between day 7 to 12. They will get kinked tales and mine usually are less active and hover on the bottom.

 As I have said before, the first few batches were very hard for me and a learning experience. In my first batch, I was only able to keep 1 alive. After time I was able to find what worked for me and tweaked things which in turn I had better success.

 What kind of filtration do you have?
 
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I do vacuum out the bottom of their tank daily.  I have a sump running on the tank that has a skimmer, refugium, macro, and lr.  In the larva tank I have just an airstone for oxygen and circulation in that tank.  The bubbles aren't foaming at the top so I feel the water is clean in there.

I can see the free swimming rotifers as well but you are right the greenwater dissipates into the larger tank.

I agree I'm bound to lose quite a few the first few times, I just am scratching my head trying to think what I can improve upon.  I already have new eggs laid from my maroon's so I want to make sure I take different action next time to ensure their survival.
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How do you clean the sand?
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They are in the suspended tank that doesn't have sand. It's an acrylic box.  That's why I'm scratching my head I can't even find the dead ones but maybe a couple, but I don't see anywhere for them to escape the acrylic box.
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Ahhhh ok. What about the lighting? Is it directly over the acclimation box? When mine first hatch I use a paper towel under my light so the light is not too bright, but bright enough for them to search for rotifers.
 What kind of lighting?

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