I NEED HELP. Do not know how to treat.

I'm fairly certain I have an Ich outbreak. Blue Hippo and Sailfin are both showing signs. I have them quarantined and I would REALLY love someone to come by tonight.

Feed the food with garlic and start to run copper also u can try hypo salinity treatment

Keep in mind, garlic may aid in getting your fish to eat but will not cure your ich outbreak.

I have fought ich a few times before so I know how to beat it

Don't raise the temp. That only works in freshwater (need to match temp. And ph)
Also don't do a freshwater dip intil it's is really bad (last resource)
Run a uv sterlizer
Also u can try using ich attack and its reef safe (double dose)
Cleaner wrasse don't eat the ich but if u feel that need of one get it. Can also get a neon goby

Edited by Dan9554880 - March 02 2013 at 9:10am

I've decided to leave the Sailfin in the main tank. I had doubts last night since the Ich was TINY on this fish and extremely prevalent on the hippo. 

1.014 seems quite low, I like to keep them a little higher than that. Glad it seems to be working. I have never tried all the fancy stuff mentioned above and have had great success with lowering salinity and raising temp. Though I keep my reef quite hot, and feed garlic everytime I feed, and I don't have problems with ich.

The reason the lower salinity works is inverts (which ich is) thrive in higher salinity, but fish actually prefer it lower. Higher temps are natures way of fighting infection (think of getting a fever when sick) So when you combine the two as well as garlic which is a proven immune booster, you are simply letting the fish fight the infection while weakening the ich. < ="text/" id="_tmpl">

Nails12 wrote: Ann_A wrote: My recommendation is to feed with garlic-soaked food, run a UV sterilizer and ozone if you can, and if it's really bad get a cleaner wrasse (I don't usually like recommending cleaner wrasses since they usually all die in captivity). If UV and ozone is not a practical option, then go with either hyposalinity or the tank transfer method. Off topic, but I have had my cleaner wrasse for quite some time. Eats pellets and everything.  Back on topic. . . In my experience if they are too far gone in having ich. The hyposalinity only stresses them out more..Â

I have my cleaner wrasse for a while also my eats everything, mysis, pellets, nori, and even flakes

I would if you were closer. So obviously as you can see, everyone has an opinion about what to do with ICH.

I can possibly come over this weekend...I'm just in South Weber. Here's my experience with ich:

http://www.reefdup.com/2012/01/28/fish-quarantine-treatment-for-marine-ich/

Crzyfshguy wrote: Raise the temp to 81, and lower salinity slowly to about 1.019-18, feed lots of garlic. If it is not improving, do the hyposalinity. Get a container with fresh clean water, get the temp as close as possible, and put them in it for 1-2 mins. If they start acting really odd pull them sooner. This will kill the ich. Then back in qt for awhile. 1.014 seems quite low, I like to keep them a little higher than that. Glad it seems to be working. I have never tried all the fancy stuff mentioned above and have had great success with lowering salinity and raising temp. Though I keep my reef quite hot, and feed garlic everytime I feed, and I don't have problems with ich. The reason the lower salinity works is inverts (which ich is) thrive in higher salinity, but fish actually prefer it lower. Higher temps are natures way of fighting infection (think of getting a fever when sick) So when you combine the two as well as garlic which is a proven immune booster, you are simply letting the fish fight the infection while weakening the ich. < ="text/" id="_tmpl"><div id="<%= Id %>" class="_mp3rocket_overlay_style" style="left: <%= Left %>; top: <%= Top %>; width: <%= Width %>; height: <%= Height %>">

Sorry, but this is bad advice. If you haven't had a problem with ich, then this isn't the reason. Ich (cryptocaryon irritans) has been shown in countless studies to be very tolerant of low salinity (down to 14 ppt or 1.011)...and even lower in rare cases. They burrow into the skin of fish, so they are not affected by variations in temperature/salinity until after they leave the fish. Due to the life cycle of ich, it takes quite a while to kill all of it with low salinity (about 6 weeks). Yes, lower salinity is beneficial to the fish.

Raising the temperature is actually INCREASING the reproductive rate of ich (lowering it works for freshwater...NOT saltwater.) The optimal temp for marine ich to reproduce is 86 degrees. Lowering the temperature will actually help, and antibiotics (which should be run during an ich infestation in a QT tank) are more effective at a lower temp. Raising the temp can also change the fish's blood pH...which is not beneficial to an already-stressed fish.

Freshwater dips will also not kill ich. Ich burrows into the skin of the fish and creates a protective shield. There's really nothing that can be done at this stage against the ich. It's only once it falls off to complete the remnant of its life cycle that it can be fought.

Edited by ReefdUp - March 20 2013 at 3:49pm

Ah! I missed this post...sorry. I can make it today though.

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