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Originally posted by love2skiutah love2skiutah wrote:

Originally posted by Krazie4Acans Krazie4Acans wrote:

Amazing how much of the rock disappeared under the sand and yet the sand is still below the molding in many places. This thing is huge! Nice work. BTW, what brand are those return pumps?

Reef Octopus DC 10500 variable pumps -  Not sure if I'd recommend, I've been having issues with them on the install.  We will see when they get up and going.  


Good to know. I just like their size and how small the pump head is for the rating on them. Thanks for the info as always! Can't wait to see that Apex running! :)
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I am sure you will like the pumps after they are up and running. I run the reef octopus 5500 on my skimmer. Great pump so far. Everything is looking really good!
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wow I am so jealous!! I wish I had a tank that big. It looks awesome!!
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If you've ever worked with Spaflex, it's kind of a pain.  I used a hairdryer to get it warm and then zip tied it to a straight edge and it worked like a charm after it cooled down. 


It took about about 30 min to fill up the display.  I will be putting some type of a cage over those 90's that are in the sump for the returns.  I did run into quite a few problems as we were filling up the tank and it took about 3 hours re-adjusting and re-doing some of the plumbing.  




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Oh yeah, lookin' good!


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I wanted to show  you guys a close up of this stand and Dosser I had Elite Aquatics custom build for me.  I was very tight on room, so this was a must.  



As you can see, the 1/4 inch tubing goes directly from the box to the Vertex and then over to the sump where I had the same connections installed. 


I have not zip tied all the cords yet because I have more Vortech's and all my Radion Pros that I have to add over the next couple weeks.  But you can see how it fits nicely under the cabinet.

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Looking good Aaron! I've got to come check this thing out soon.
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Originally posted by ch3tt ch3tt wrote:

Looking good Aaron! I've got to come check this thing out soon.

Come by anytime you are in the area
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Looking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow !!! It just gets better and better. I really love the design of your dosing tank and how clean that turned out  , so hands off to You and Tyler  !! The imagination new ideas in builds never seems to end .
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At least I got my 4 gallon Nano in my kitchen to get me by while I'm cycling.  UGH

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Very nice. It is amazing how much another tank can help with patience while waiting!


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I'd like to point out one of the mistakes I made when I was installing, so some you plumbing noobs like me don't do the same thing.  

Okay, so ignore that I have a coupling in there, cause I was originally supposed to have a union, but I was short one.  See the angle of the spaflex going up into the bulkhead?  I installed all my bulkheads and tested them and no leaks.  I then proceeded to glue the spaflex up into the bulkheads and I thought it was fine. It turns out that with the spaflex bent, it put pressure on the bottom of the bulkhead and basically squished the gasket and caused them to leak.  I had to buy 4 new bulkheads with gaskets and redo some of the plumbing.  I ended up coming straight down with the spaflex and then using a 90 to come over and into the main run.  Ryan showed up with 400 gallons of water and ended up staying at my home past midnight helping me fix my screw up.  So I guess the moral of the story is when you are using the spaflex, be super careful with those hard angles.  It puts a lot of pressure on your plumbing.  I was actually really annoyed because I spent so much time doing research and being what I thought was super careful on doing my plumbing with the bulkheads.  Nice piece of humble pie for me Clap

Seriously though, Ryan from Aquatic Dreams bent over backwards and saved my butt that night be staying all night and helping me fix the problem.  I appreciate everyone showing up at my house and giving me pointers though.  I took a little bit of information from everyone to get this done.  



Here's one of the gaskets I ruined. 

The second time, I heated the spaflex up with a hairdryer and then zip tied it to the straight edge until it cooled.  
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Seriously. I hate cycling.

I wanted to show you the difference between my 2 tanks.

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Looks awesome Aaron. I know it's a bit late now but you can use the same technique of heating the spaflex and then bending it and holding it bent while it cools to take the stress off of the bulkheads as well. In either case that clean plumbing will pay off. I try to avoid 90 elbows in my plumbing as much as possible especially in the drains to keep the flow as unrestricted as possible.

Glad you found another solution that works as well.
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Originally posted by Krazie4Acans Krazie4Acans wrote:

Looks awesome Aaron. I know it's a bit late now but you can use the same technique of heating the spaflex and then bending it and holding it bent while it cools to take the stress off of the bulkheads as well. In either case that clean plumbing will pay off. I try to avoid 90 elbows in my plumbing as much as possible especially in the drains to keep the flow as unrestricted as possible.

Glad you found another solution that works as well.


That was the whole point of using the spaflex, was to avoid the 90s. If you look at the picture above, I did heat it up, but the bend was still too tight. At the time, I assumed it was fine, but that small amount of pressure ruined those gaskets. Ryan spent 4 hours with me until almost 1 in the morning helpling me fix it :/

It's been a really fun project to work on this fall, but I'm ready to start filling it up. I've already got some orders in for some really special fish :)
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I live pretty close to you in centerville and would love to come check out your setup sometime.  I'm in the middle of building a 90 system right now as well, maybe you can give me some pointers.
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Originally posted by speyside712 speyside712 wrote:

I live pretty close to you in centerville and would love to come check out your setup sometime.  I'm in the middle of building a 90 system right now as well, maybe you can give me some pointers.

You are more than welcome to stop by anytime.  Evenings are best
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Originally posted by love2skiutah love2skiutah wrote:


Originally posted by speyside712 speyside712 wrote:

I live pretty close to you in centerville and would love to come check out your setup sometime. √ā¬†I'm in the middle of building a 90 system right now as well, maybe you can give me some pointers.


You are more than welcome to stop by anytime. √ā¬†Evenings are best


I want to come by some time too!






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Originally posted by ksmart ksmart wrote:

Originally posted by love2skiutah love2skiutah wrote:


Originally posted by speyside712 speyside712 wrote:

I live pretty close to you in centerville and would love to come check out your setup sometime.  I'm in the middle of building a 90 system right now as well, maybe you can give me some pointers.


You are more than welcome to stop by anytime.  Evenings are best


I want to come by some time too!

Anyone is welcome.  Just PM me! 
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