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    Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:49pm
A couple days ago my Toadstool started to develop what looks like a rot.  The flesh in the middle turned dark and is now flaking off.  It doesn't appear to be the same as it shedding it's flesh. Any suggestions.    

I am about to check my water, I know my salt was a little high 1.026 a couple days ago but that has been fixed. 




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Tough call.  Part of me says increase the flow and wait.  Part of me says frag it up now.

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Maybe the anenome is stinging it? You could try moving it. It happened to me and my toadstool recovered im a couple of days. If you think it is a fungus and might spread I will frag some of it so if one piece dies you will still have something.
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Does sediment happen to land there often? The middle of corals like that often die due to sediment buildup. The whitish patch above.itlooks like nipping though. How's your water? I'd run carbon if you aren't already.
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I think sediment does land there so I will watch for that.
I don't think it's the anem since it just moved back there but I planned to move it anyway.
I will do carbon. I will have to learn how to frag it in case I need to go that route.

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look closely and also look at night to see if there is anything munching away at it.. little worms or bugs maybe..
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I agree with Adam.  Lots of water flow will help.  If it continues to decay you may want to frag up the entire coral.  You can try corals dips, but I have had little luck with stopping decay in Sacrophytons.

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Has your tank experienced any changes due to the change in seasons?  Temperature fluctuations maybe?  In the last couple weeks my toadstool has also started rotting away and I can't pinpoint the reason either.  Mine is almost completely gone now, but I have several others that are doing fine.  As far as I can tell there have been no changes in my tank recently except that the heaters run an awful lot more and it's possible the temps are fluctuating a little more than they were in the spring, summer, fall.

I also agree with Adam, raise the water flow.  Try to keep the damaged area clean and there is a good chance you will not loose the entire coral.
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The temperature seems to be stable but I have noticed the heater on more frequently so that is certainly a possibility.  
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Aloha Erik,

Thanks for the pics. They are very helpful.

How long has this Sarcophyton been in the tank? What coral was added last and how long ago was that?

I also believe the deterioration could have started because of a build up of detritus sitting there undisturbed for a while. Is that what happened or has the coral always been fairly clean on top?

Water flow across the top of the Sarco is important. Do I see two powerheads on the right side? The nicest way to improve flow would be to place those powerheads on opposite sides facing each other, or ideally to place them lower shooting up to meet in the middle center of the water surface. Where the water streams meet creates changing turbulence and water flowing away in slightly changing paths. Coral appreciate that. That would create good flow around the top of the Sarco.

How much and how often has AC been used? A large Sarco with a variety of other coral, means a cup of new AC every 2-4 weeks is very important.

I see some brown coloration in the tank like a soft brown algae, perhaps a diatom bloom because of the pollution brought about by the dieing part of the Sarco. Is there a way you could add some Macroalgae to eat up the pollution? I have some if you want to come by and pick it up.

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Thanks all for the responses.

It has been in the tank for a couple months and this is the first problems I have had with it.  About 2 1/2 weeks ago I added a couple small frags 

It is very likely there was detritus on it so as several have suggested I have increased the flow.  I have also refreshed my AC as I have not refreshed it as frequently as you (Mark) suggested.  


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