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Originally posted by jdinchak jdinchak wrote:

Sustainable said they tried breeding Garden Eels and it wasn't cost effective to sell (not high in demand) but shows it is possible.  He offered to share his information (I am the dummy who never emailed him back, I really need to do that).  New challenge for you!  Garden Eels for ALL!  Lets do it!
The thought has crossed my mind to try them, maybe with some help from Matt C (or Jeremy W) I could try! Garden Eels for ALL!!!!
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I'm excited to get a couple!
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Sustainable said they tried breeding Garden Eels and it wasn't cost effective to sell (not high in demand) but shows it is possible.  He offered to share his information (I am the dummy who never emailed him back, I really need to do that).  New challenge for you!  Garden Eels for ALL!  Lets do it!
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"That is awesome. Your ability to breed fish is impressive."
Thanks Mark

"It was really cool to see.  The entire night after seeing them at your shop my wife said "I want to raise cardinals"."
Glad you enjoyed! I remember leaving your house saying to myself I want an Eel Garden.

"Any updates on when these will be available for sale?"
Pete, you should have stopped, said hi, and seen them Saturday when you was down this way. They are still smallish but have been eating pellets for about a week now. I'm just starting them on frozen now. Maybe another 3 or 4 weeks they will be big enough?


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Any updates on when these will be available for sale?
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It was really cool to see.  The entire night after seeing them at your shop my wife said "I want to raise cardinals". 
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That is awesome. Your ability to breed fish is impressive.

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Thanks Shane
I had 7 more hatch that were in a tumbler yesterday, and another 35ish more from another male tonight. Still have 2 more males holding.   
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Originally posted by Shane H Shane H wrote:

I never tried to raise the fry, but the adults were "regular" producers.


What he means to say is they were horny.
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Seriously, I want to buy some. Badly.

I would be down for a few as well!  Please post when they're ready for sale!

Nice job.  I still remember when Jeff Hite hatched and raised these years ago.  It was one of my favorite things to watch!   I had a mated pair for years. I never tried to raise the fry, but the adults were "regular" producers.

Congrats! Again.  
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Seriously, I want to buy some. Badly.
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Thanks Pete and Molli.
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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

That's awesome Shaun.

For that many baby Bangaii, I would do a regular tank of at least 30 gals with good LS bed with tons of life, a pile of LR rubble, and tons of algae all over to provide good live bug spawn and live bug larvae for them to eat. If possible, plumb this separate tank as part of the system where the Bangaii parents are living. Two important advantages to this are, 1) the water is essentially the same as what they hatched in and 2) water changes are unnecessary, except as the larger system receives new water. 

Here is a Mike Savage pic (my TOTM) of a good environment for Bangaii.




For Cowan, there is an easy way to capture the babies. I believe it has been written here on the forum several times. It talks about waiting until tails are poking out of Dad's mouth or just before, sneaking up on the tank after dark, flipping the lights on and immediately netting Dad, who often releases the babies right into the net. This was the technique in the the pic below. One of the released babies is visible above/behind Dad's first dorsal fin.
Do a WMAS forum search and also, if you haven't seen it, read the excellent article about it in this SeaStar:  http://www.utahreefs.com/SeaStar/wmasSeaStar02Feb.pdf

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Mark thanks for the info. I have them in 5 and 10 gallon bare bottom tanks, a little macro algae, and a sponge filter. No LR, no LS, not plumbed, and I wish I had more macro algae with lots of good bugs Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page..
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I got another 13 tonight! I didn't see this male till tonight and I think he all ready released most of them. That makes over 100 just in the last week.
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Originally posted by Pete Moss Pete Moss wrote:



The hobby needs more tank raised fish, you're a total champ!





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Shaun you keep doing your fish raising thing!

The hobby needs more tank raised fish, you're a total champ!

Will you let me know when your tank raised fish are available for sale? I plan on only stocking tank raised and would be more than willing to make the trip to American Fork.




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That's awesome Shaun.

For that many baby Bangaii, I would do a regular tank of at least 30 gals with good LS bed with tons of life, a pile of LR rubble, and tons of algae all over to provide good live bug spawn and live bug larvae for them to eat. If possible, plumb this separate tank as part of the system where the Bangaii parents are living. Two important advantages to this are, 1) the water is essentially the same as what they hatched in and 2) water changes are unnecessary, except as the larger system receives new water. 

Here is a Mike Savage pic (my TOTM) of a good environment for Bangaii.




For Cowan, there is an easy way to capture the babies. I believe it has been written here on the forum several times. It talks about waiting until tails are poking out of Dad's mouth or just before, sneaking up on the tank after dark, flipping the lights on and immediately netting Dad, who often releases the babies right into the net. This was the technique in the the pic below. One of the released babies is visible above/behind Dad's first dorsal fin.
Do a WMAS forum search and also, if you haven't seen it, read the excellent article about it in this SeaStar:  http://www.utahreefs.com/SeaStar/wmasSeaStar02Feb.pdf

Aloha,
Mark  Hug





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Originally posted by sabeypets sabeypets wrote:

Originally posted by Molli Molli wrote:

Congrats!
Thanks Molli

Had another 30 plus hatch yesterday! that makes close to 100 this week!!!!
 
you should keep them all.  These are increasingly RARE fish.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Molli Molli wrote:

Congrats!
Thanks Molli

Had another 30 plus hatch yesterday! that makes close to 100 this week!!!!
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