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Posted: November 07 2015 at 6:18am |
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I will be out making the rounds today with the reef store tour if you planned on being there as well. Either way text me 435.890.6626
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 8:30pm |
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I'll take the brs reactor.
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 7:42pm |
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I have a single brs reactor $20
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 4:57pm |
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PumpPump is $26 and plumbing parts are $16. I think you can get a reactor from BRS for $35ish.
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 4:52pm |
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Maybe it's worth it for me to just buy a BRS reactor if all the plans for that are tried and proven. Other than the reactor and pump, how much is the total cost for everything else?
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 4:36pm |
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I have some LSM I can sell also, if you need some
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 4:35pm |
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I've never built one out of a TLF reactor so I'm not sure what pieces would need to change. The BRS one is super simple and I know they work.
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 4:19pm |
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I have a Two Little Fishies reactor. Will that work? I'll probably take you up on the offer. I do pass Syracuse occassionally.
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 3:52pm |
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I have plumbing fittings and a maxijet I could sell. No BRS reactor body or cartridge. I could also probably spare a small amount of LSM. It's a bit of a drive but the offer is there.
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Posted: November 06 2015 at 2:21pm |
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I'm really considering trying this on my jellyfish tank. I can't seem to keep the Nitrates down for some reason. Does anyone have any leftover supplies?
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Posted: September 06 2015 at 7:08am |
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Mine has been running for 3 months now, and I love it. They take a month or two to start working properly.
Yes I still run gfo, gfo is for phosphate.
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Posted: August 25 2015 at 8:54pm |
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Yes mine is running great as well. I have gradually increased the effleunt rate and have brought my nitrates down to 18-22 ppm i have not got my effleunt opened all the way yet.
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Posted: August 25 2015 at 8:53am |
Mine is still running great and I've got it dialed in so that I am keeping my nitrates between 5-7ppm. I could easily take it lower but my corals don't like when my levels get too low. I know jbuck has his running but I'm not sure if he has gotten it tuned or not. ThatGuy was having an issue with air leaking into his unit. I never heard whether he got that figured out or not. The maxijet is easy to swap out or replace with just a twist of the pump. If you pump is running noisy then take the impeller out. you will notice that the impeller blades will turn about 1/8th of a turn independent of the magnet. I've found that if you turn the blades until they hit one of the stops (doesn't matter which way), Then place a couple of drops of super glue where the blade piece meets the magnet piece. This locks the two together and after it dries and is put back in removes all "chatter" from my pumps. I have a couple of pumps that have been running that way for months and I know someone else that has some running that way for years. Krazie 
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Posted: August 15 2015 at 11:31am |
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My maxijet just died for some reason.
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Posted: August 14 2015 at 11:57am |
How about an update on how the sulfur reactors are working out. Likes, dislikes, things you would change Are you still using GFO?
Thanks Glenn
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Posted: June 12 2015 at 8:40am |
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Calcium use could be higher just as a result of higher coral growth from lower nutrients and less algae. Keep checking your alk as it will start to drop as the reactor continues to cycle.
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Posted: June 11 2015 at 10:12pm |
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So my denitrator has been up and running for almost 2 weeks. I have not noticed higher usage of alk yet. But it is starting to lower nitrates to a point where hair algae is starting to recede. I also swear my calcium usage has gone up a little.... my alk is right around 9, and my cal is around 380-390 when i try to keep it 400-410. Maybe i miss tested i will see again tomorrow or Saturday
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Posted: May 21 2015 at 10:13pm |
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Not really. Remember that in order to break down the arm enough to become a buffer the pH needs to drop below about 7. The reactor won't drop it that far. The extra media will provide more surface area for bacteria and will prevent the sulfur from tumbling but that is about it.
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Posted: May 21 2015 at 10:04pm |
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So i bought a koralin c4002 for a great deal on R2R. Going to use it as a denitrator. Since i will only be using a small amount of LSM would adding more Arm media help with the chances of it being bufferd better
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Posted: May 21 2015 at 9:15pm |
 Krazie4Acans wrote:
I've been running one for just over a year on one tank and 6 months on another. I'll focus my answers on the year old tank because it was the reason I chose to use this method. I'm pretty sure Allen Bishop has been running one longer than that so he may be able to add to my experience.
What are the positives and what are the negatives so far?<span style="line-height: 1.4;">
Positives I can feed and bio load the tank as much as I want and still control the nitrates in the system without huge water changes or other effects. It's not really a negative but increased Alk use due to reactor. No other negatives.
</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">Could you also list your pre and post water chemistry?
I'll only list the chemistry the pertains to the use of the reactor. Pre-reactor pH 8.3 Nitrates 35-40ppm Alk 8.8dKh. Post reactor pH 8.1 Nitrates 4-5ppm Alk 8.7dKh (dosing increased to correct).
</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">What have you had to do to maintain water conditions?
Slight increase in Alk dosing and an increase in feeding. I could also reduce the amount of Sulfur in the reactor to allow for the usual feeding amounts. I chose to feed more.
</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">Have you seen any changes to your live stock?
Much better PE and color in corals due to reduced Nitrates. No other noticeable changes other than fat fish because I can feed more.
</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">Did you mix </span>another<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span>media<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> with the sulfur(Matrix or any other material)? I used ARM media on top to fill the cartridge so that the media doesn't tumble, this also helps a small amount with pH and Alk but not enough to offset the reactor output. You can also just you sponge on top of the sulfur without any other media. Some people use Matrix as a bacteria homing substrate. I chose not to as I want the bacteria to be in contact with the sulfur as much as possible for an efficient reaction. This is all personal choice and doesn't really effect what is going on in the reactor. </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">Are you using anything on top of the sulphur? Answered above. </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">Are you running the </span>effluent<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> to anything? No, I return in directly to a high flow area of the sump to mix with the tank water. Some run it into more ARM but honestly the pH drop in the reactor is just not enough to effectively break down ARM enough to return the effluent to it's input water levels. The amount of change after running it over ARM before being returned to the tank wasn't enough to warrant an additional media container and extra plumbing and hoses to deal with in the stand. </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">Why did you chose this over other means to reduce Nitrate? Because of it's obvious and clear scientific method and theory. Its proven effectiveness. Its simplicity and its longevity. Final factor was that it does not rely on having other equipment to complete it's cleanup. The other methods all require a very efficient skimmer to remove the bi-product from the water. There are also many people who have experienced negative effects of over dosing the other methods of reduction. The only effect of an over filled reactor is a bad smell that your wife will make you solve immediately.  </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">What is the out put of your effluent (PH, Alk, and nitrate)? pH 7.8-8.0, Alk 7.9dKh, Nitrate 0ppm </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">What would you do different? Started using it years ago. Maybe start with a little less sulfur and be patient with bringing the nitrates down slower so that I didn't have to shut down the reactor and remove some media. I think it would be better if you used less media, let the levels come down slower over time and not have to open the reactor for about a year and only to add more media to replace what has been used. Hope that helps. Krazie </span> |
+1...because I'm too busy with midterms to answer any more detailed. My results/answers are similar.
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