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    Posted: October 02 2015 at 4:55pm
Hello Everyone !

I am new to this forum and I have a question . Why does every Tang I add to my tank stop eating and die after 1-2 weeks?
I have a 180 gallon Reef tank. It's been up and running for 5 years. All our other fish are doing great and water is perfect ( according to testing ). No bullying that I have seen . Corals and Anenomes are good .

I lost a clown tang after 3 weeks , it was doing great and eating for 1 1/2 weeks then stopped eating and died at 3 weeks. Our Yellow tang stopped eating and died after 1 week. We now have added another yellow. He did great for 1 week and 2 days ago stopped eating. We are feeding our fish LSF Fish Frenzy food , as well as Emerald green. We add garlic Extreme. We have a clip that holds seaweed that's in there , we replace it daily. We also have an alge/ miss plant in there and we drop in alge tabs as well.
PLEASE HELP .... We don't want to lose this one, he is so cool and has an awesome personality.
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How do you acclimate? What is your salinty
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So sorry to hear that! Do you have areas for them to hide? I have a couple of yellow tangs that only hide. They are super nervous little fish. At least compared to my clowns that eat from a turkey baster.
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Thanks for Responding !!!My salinity is at 1.024. Yes there are plenty of places to hide in the reefs. We acclimate with all the lights off for about 30-45 min
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My water temp has been a bit high at 80, all our other fish don't seem to mind though. We have been trying to bring the temp down though
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I recommend quarantining new tangs in a separate tank. That way there is no stress from other fish, they don't have to compete for food and they can be inspected for parasites and diseases before going into the main tank.
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I totally agree but I don't have a quarantine tank
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You have probably just had bad luck.  What other fish are in the tank?  The clown tang I can see, as it can be difficult to keep.  Yellow tangs are much hardier.


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I have a Green Spotted Mandarin Goby , 2 clown fish, Lawn mower Goby, 1 female Anthias, 1 Royal Gamma, 2 blue Chromis, a 6 line wrasse, a Flamed Hawk fish, and the Yellow Tang. We also have 2 Emerald crabs , a bunch of little hermits, snails, Corals , Anenomes, and a Lot of live rock
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Nothing in that list would be able to pick on a tang, except for maybe the six line wrasse.  They can be aggressive.

 Having said that, I stand by what I said, that you just have had bad luck.  That's not a lot of fish for that size of tank and a tang should hold its own against a small fish, even an aggressive one... 
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You have a large tank and such small fish. That's awesome. How big is your tang when you add it? I don't know the answer but yellow tangs are pretty tough. Not that you should subject them to poor quality but they are somewhat resilient. Some tangs are some of the harder fish to keep, like an Achilles. Could be bad luck or maybe they are super stressed when you buy them from your LFS. There is some place in slc that has fish they quarantine for longer periods of time for higher prices. May be worth a shot to try those. But it sucks losing fish
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Are the tangs showing any other signs of sickness other than not eating?
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Have you got all your tangs from the same vender/ venders? Where have you gotten your fish?
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We would like to eventually add more fish , we want to add some hippos and a few more yellow tangs but we r waiting to see if we can keep one alive for longer then 3 weeks before we buy more. It is a large tank! I also would like to add an angel to my crew . We are buying them all from a store in Sandy.
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They are not showing any other signs of sickness, they just stop eating then died

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Silly question , how many fish can a tank my size hold ? I want to make sure there is plenty of swimming room and not over crowded either. I want them all to be happy

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Try a different vender. There are certain stores that I won't buy fish from because they always die after a few weeks. I recommend aquatic dreams in Layton. A bit of a drive for you, but I've always had good success with their fish, especially tangs.
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The LFS in Sandy, The Aquarium, is an excellent store and does not sell bad fish. I seriously doubt that's the reason for this string of "bad luck". Everything everyone above has mentioned is good but keeping a tank healthy is not like shooting in the dark. If we had more information we could really help resolve this specific issue:

- Please post a pic of the entire tank, a closer up pic of the rock and a pic of the sump and especially the Refugium if there is one.
- Also please give the actual Alk, Ca and Mg numbers.
- 80 degrees is too hot. I would guess that it rises over 80 on occasion, right? What is being done to lower the temp (fan over the top water, leaving cabinet doors open, etc.)?
- If the tank has been running for 5 years, when, if ever did it house Tangs or other large body fish for more than a few weeks?
- What kind of sicknesses has the tank/fish had in the past?
- What Garlic product is being used and how often?
- What kind of live algae is being provided, how much and how often?

That's enough questions for the moment. I'll probably have more after seeing the answers to the questions above. Wink

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The water ranges , all, cal, Nit, mg are all good. Yes 80 is high and it does go up occasionally. We keep the doors and lid open through out the day as well as a fan . We also put a couple frozen bottles of RO water to the sump. We do not have another tank. It has been running for 5 years in a doctors office. We purchased it a couple months ago . We kept all the original Live rocks , sand and water. It came with one coral and a clown fish. Apparently he couldn't keep any of the tangs alive either. So the clown has the whole tank to himself for years. After we purchased it we added the other fish , 3 corals and Anenomes. They are all thriving and seem very happy and content. We can't seem to keep any Tangs alive though.

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The tank is beautiful !

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I use Garlic Extreme , it says 1 drop per 10 gallons but I don't use that much. No sicknesses in the tank that I know of, doc told us it's been a very healthy tank except for being able to keep Tangs.
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