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    Posted: February 22 2016 at 1:54pm
Not sure what I'm dealing with here. I initially thought that this was just Diatoms. But now i'm thinking it's something different. I wasn't to worried about this at first. But now its starting to mess with my coral. I know there is a lot of info on this forum about this stuff. But i guess i just need to know what i am dealing with before i can take care of the problem. Hopefully these pictures will tell the story. I know there not the best pictures. But here is was i got.



This is a frag of Frogspawn that is completely covered with this stuff and looks to be smothering it.


This is probably where the problem looks the worst. This Rock should be purple not hairy and brown.



This is the best pic i could get of the sand bed. The stringy stuff on the middle right is what is covering my other stuff.


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Not sure exactly.  I had dino's recently, they don't look like that.  They are stringy with lots of air bubbles trapped beneath them.  I don't think it looks like diatoms either.  Not sure if Cyano comes in green.  Might just be green hair algae?
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The pictures make it look more green than it really is. It's defiantly brown in color.
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I see Hair Algae and Cyano with Diatoms mixed in and covering some of the green.

I see a serious need for lots and lots more Snails and a few Hermits in that tank ASAP. It's a necessary expense in this hobby. The best Snails are discussed in the Reefkeeping Tips. This is the algae bloom we may have warned you about. Snails will clean it up. This is my story. It's worth reading because of how it talks about how many snails were needed. www.garf.org/ugly.html (hope the link still works)

From what I see, there is a slight possibility that some of it is a unique hair-like algae called Bryopsis. In a week or two, after the Snails and Hermits have cleaned up, if there are a few spots of feathery algae, show us a pic so we can ID it. In the Reefkeeping Tips thread (towards the first where I discuss the affordable aquarium) is a link to pics of all the different types of algae we encounter from time to time. It's good to get acquainted with algae.

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Thanks mark, Just added a bunch of snails. I'll keep you posted. I already had a bunch on hermits. So i'll keep you posted.
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Good, I hope a lot of Snails were added, like 40 or more. It will take more than the standard amount of Snails to get that algae under control before it becomes a worse bloom than it already is. 

The importance of Snails cannot be overstated.

My rule of thumb for tanks under one year of age is generally 1 Snail per gallon and 1 Hermit for every 3 gallons.

You said, "I already had a bunch on hermits."  Be careful with Hermits. They are good for eating long filaments of algae but not as good as Snails at keeping it cropped close to the rock. If they are hungry and find out how good a dieing snail tastes, Hermits can sometimes forget about Algae and seek out Snails. They usually only get to that point when the Algae gets cleaned up and snails become compromised by hunger. 

Snails are typically nocturnal. If snails are out all day, it means they are not finding enough to eat at night. At that point, removing a few Snails to give to another aquarium is a good idea.

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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

I see Hair Algae and Cyano with Diatoms mixed in and covering some of the green.

I see a serious need for lots and lotsテつmore Snails and a few Hermits in that tank ASAP. It's a necessary expense in this hobby. The bestテつSnails are discussed in the Reefkeeping Tips.テつThis is the algae bloom we may have warned you about. Snails will clean it up. This is my story. It's worth reading because of how it talks about how many snails were needed. www.garf.org/ugly.htmlテつ(hopeテつthe linkテつstill works)

From what I see, there isテつa slightテつpossibility that some of it is aテつunique hair-like algae called Bryopsis. In a week or two,テつafter the Snails and Hermits have cleaned up, if there are a few spots of feathery algae, show us a pic so we can ID it. In the Reefkeeping Tips thread (towards the first where I discuss the affordable aquarium) is a link to pics of all the different types of algae we encounter from time to time. It's good to get acquainted with algae.

Aloha,

Mark Hug




I've got to second Mark on this. My nano cube was being taken over by Cyano (I realize it has to do with water quality... still working on that). I added a bunch of new hermit crabs and within 2 weeks, they have almost completely decimated it. I don't think they actually eat Cyano, but the sure do a great job and tearing it up so that it doesn't grow all over my LR & sand.
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And that's how it's done in Mozambique. 

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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

And that's how it's done in Mozambique.テつ

Aloha テつWink


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Added a few snails, And changed up my water flow ( Just moved the powerhead to a different spot ) Things are looking ALOT better. PS: Blue Hermit Crabs eat Acan's and Horn Coral. Angry
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Ouch That's why I say "Snails, Snails, Snails, and a few Hermits" In usual situations a few Hermits cannot do much damage, but they are Omnivores, after all. We have noticed Hermits picking at algae and other growth next to a coral and then see them indiscriminately start to pick at the edges of coral flesh. This damages the flesh causing the edges to die. Hermits eat dieing and dead flesh. The progression of this action to where the coral becomes completely devoured is why some hobbyists stay away from Hermits altogether.

Sorry for your loss.

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