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Posted: September 24 2017 at 9:32am |
Marcoss wrote:
Kind of how this has a overflow cover.
https://www.google.com/search?q=peninsula+nano.tank+storage&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS590US590&hl=en-US&prmd=isnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0stXh7rnWAhVhwlQKHa-BBgsQ_AUIESgB&biw=414&bih=660#imgrc=01-_rA0xTTct9M: | I copy and posted this link and couldn't get anything to come up. Do you mind reposting?
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 6:05pm |
Adam Blundell wrote:
Hmmmm, I would reconsider whether or not this tank needs dosing.
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| Can you elaborate please? I'm only doing monthly couple gallon water changes because I could not keep cynao away. Since I backed off from the weekly water changes its been completely clear. I have tons of zoas, a few LPS and about 12 - 15 SPS that all are growing quickly. On top of that the coraline algae has exploded and I'm sure is consuming a lot. I'm not saying your wrong I just want to learn and understand. Everything I read is consistent water chemistry. If I don't dose my alk and calcium would fall through the floor.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 5:21pm |
Hmmmm, I would reconsider whether or not this tank needs dosing.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 4:57pm |
Marcoss wrote:
To be frank - it's already a bit crowded and seems to go against rule one. I'm not trying to be a ****.
That said - are you handy? I'm not so I'll do my best to describe it. Why not build a little box on the rear of the tank that sits flush against the tank. Like a little storage cabinet that is stained or something. You'll have to bump your tank a little more into the island but it would look cool. And then you just have one power wire coming out of this box and can hide tiny dosers in it. Maybe they pull from little 8 oz water bottles.
I'm in the same boat as Mark about dosing not that often. I don't think the corals in there have that much of a demand. | Lol....I agree with how it looks now. I'm waiting to get the doser figured out and then cleaning it up. I was thinking the same thing but just doing it out of plexi and mounting it to the back of the island. My biggest thing I was worried about was the containers but I could make my own and make them any size or shape. I test every Sunday and am maintaining calcium at 450, mag at 1350 at alk around 8.5 It's crazy but there is a lot in this little tank.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 4:44pm |
Kind of how this has a overflow cover.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 4:41pm |
To be frank - it's already a bit crowded and seems to go against rule one. I'm not trying to be a ****.
That said - are you handy? I'm not so I'll do my best to describe it. Why not build a little box on the rear of the tank that sits flush against the tank. Like a little storage cabinet that is stained or something. You'll have to bump your tank a little more into the island but it would look cool. And then you just have one power wire coming out of this box and can hide tiny dosers in it. Maybe they pull from little 8 oz water bottles.
I'm in the same boat as Mark about dosing not that often. I don't think the corals in there have that much of a demand.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 4:12pm |
Mark Peterson wrote:
First I want to congratulate you for coming here first. Your experience with the Kessil was a lesson well learned.
So, you are dosing twice a day. Please don't take offense, but in my opinion that's crazy! I have maintenance accounts where I dose only every two weeks and some only monthly. Even with my 300 gal coral farm, where I did my best to maximize growth/profit, I was only dosing about once or twice a week.
I believe some hobbyists make this hobby more work than it needs to be and then they quickly burn out. Rather than thinking that the solution is more equipment and that the job is to throw money at the tank, why not learn how to help the tank do its own dosing, in between weekly manual dosing. Yes, a well set up tank can dose itself to a certain extent. All it takes is some knowledge and some one time tank modification to take advantage of this bio-chemical benefit.
In my experience, only Alk and Ca need to be dosed on a regular basis and mostly just Alk because that is the component that can't be overdosed. Ca can be overdosed with no ill effect. Mg can be left alone for months and then dosed heavily. Contrary to what novice hobbyists might say and manufacturers might claim, dosing the other bottles of stuff found on store shelves these days will be just fine if done only once in a while.
Along that line, perhaps this helps illuminate why a three or four chemical doser is quite unnecessary. In my experience, just because it's available for sale does not mean it's necessary. Learning these things will save $100's and help make a wife happy.
Aloha, Mark Â
P.S. I realize that using current technology is fun and can be very helpful. Yes, many dosers have their own electronic control. The doser unit is typically small enough to fit under the counter and the bottles could be placed in the cabinet with lines run up through small holes. | I would love to learn how to make my tank dose itself! Please elaborate a little please? Next time your in Ogden you should swing by again. I want to learn.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 12:06pm |
First I want to congratulate you for coming here first. Your experience with the Kessil was a lesson well learned.
So, you are dosing twice a day. Please don't take offense, but in my opinion that's crazy! I have maintenance accounts where I dose only every two weeks and some only monthly. Even with my 300 gal coral farm, where I did my best to maximize growth/profit, I was only dosing about once or twice a week.
I believe some hobbyists make this hobby more work than it needs to be and then they quickly burn out. Rather than thinking that the solution is more equipment and that the job is to throw money at the tank, why not learn how to help the tank do its own dosing, in between weekly manual dosing. Yes, a well set up tank can dose itself to a certain extent. All it takes is some knowledge and some one time tank modification to take advantage of this bio-chemical benefit.
In my experience, only Alk and Ca need to be dosed on a regular basis and mostly just Alk because that is the component that can't be overdosed. Ca can be overdosed with no ill effect. Mg can be left alone for months and then dosed heavily. Contrary to what novice hobbyists might say and manufacturers might claim, dosing the other bottles of stuff found on store shelves these days will be just fine if done only once in a while.
Along that line, perhaps this helps illuminate why a three or four chemical doser is quite unnecessary. In my experience, just because it's available for sale does not mean it's necessary. Learning these things will save $100's and help make a wife happy.
Aloha, Mark
P.S. I realize that using current technology is fun and can be very helpful. Yes, many dosers have their own electronic control. The doser unit is typically small enough to fit under the counter and the bottles could be placed in the cabinet with lines run up through small holes.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 9:00am |
Here are some photos. Let me know what else information may be needed. To answer your questions No there is no controller. I was under the impression that some dosers had controllers built in. Also hole in the floor would be great! But my wife would not go for it. As you can see I have some room to mount some items to the back of the island and under the granite but I have to keep it to where it looks good and the island remains functional. I'm anxiously waiting to hear some ideas.
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Posted: September 22 2017 at 7:17am |
I think we will need some more information to really come up with great ideas. Do you have a controller or does the doser need it's own controller? Can the storage containers be located in the cabinets of the island or in the basement? Can holes be drilled in the floor or the island to accommodate tubing? I guess some of this can be answered when you load some pictures. I think I'll hold the rest of them until then.
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Posted: September 21 2017 at 8:59pm |
I'll post some pics tomorrow but I need some ideas on how to mount a doser, containers and everything ran to my edge that sits on my kitchen island.
I'm dosing too much by hand now and want to automate this so it's simple and something I don't have to remember to do and so it can be more consistent.
Here are the rules.
1. It has to be clean, professionally looking. Hidden out of the way and not interfere with the use of the island and be kept up high enough so our bulldogs can't destroy it. This is #1 to equal a happy wife.
2. Happy wife
3. Happy wife
It's got to be neat and clean so she will let me do it.
I'll post pics tomorrow but please start thinking.
I'm dosing 1.5ml of calcium and magnesium daily and 5ml of alk. Daily. 2.5 at night and 2.5 in the morning.
Would like a 4 channel to use one for top off.
Thanks in advance
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