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FirePig
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 10:34pm |
I just want to start out by saying I'm relatively new to the hobby, and have been using the wmas forum for guidance over the last year or so. Rarely do I post, (with this being about my second) but after reading a few of you rip on Mark for the better part of a day, I have to chime in. I don't know Mark from the man on the moon, but I have to say he has helped me a ton with my tank and doesn't even know it. I've only met him once in person. He was way nice, and I'd even go as far as to say pretty cool (in an I have a mini ocean in my family room nerdy, dorky kind of way). Sometimes he does sound a bit harsh, but he usually says it like it is, and only means to help. It seems there are only a select few that have a problem with Mark, and it turns out those few also seem to be the most vocal right now here in wmas. There have been a few that have said maybe they just have 'thick skins', but Mark is not offensive to them. I think the actual case is there are some that are much more sensitive than most. If Mark is really that offensive to you, I'm of the opinion you just say how you feel once, or better yet, ignore. Don't drag a person through the mud for it or you're no better than they are. Anyway, just wanted to get a perspective out there from someone that is not very vocal here, but reads most of these threads like they're going out of style. All my opinion mind you, and pretty much coming from a newbie, so take it for what it's worth. :) I gotta say, I appreciate everyone here. Thanks for all the opinions and advice that have increased my knowledge in the hobby enough that I can enjoy even the simplest aspects of a beautiful reef. Pig
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 11:29pm |
K I'm gonna say this ONE more time. No one has said mark hasnt been helpful in this forum(that i can think of the top of my head). AGAIN it is the way he speaks and chooses to comment on posts. It is the private messages. It has nothing to do with sensitivity IMO. It has to do with respect and treating people with equality.Yes like it has been said in this thread He has helped many even me when I started Im sure he will continue to do help many. I know this was supposed to be done with and moving on since venting is done and hopefully points on both sides were made.But apparently NOT. As for dragging through the mud I think some that he has pm'd like pam and some others may have felt the same way. And I have met a few others from fish stores,and other forums that said they left the wmas because of it.So I think there are a lil more than a few. maybe not. But anyways. I dont hate mark I dont despise him. He is intellegent. He has his own ways of doin things.
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 8:39pm |
Wow, I'm gone camping for a few days and I miss everything!
That said, here's my two cents. Brett and Kristine, I can definitely see where you're coming from. I have been told (on many occasions) that I'm crazy or flat our wrong for doing something with my tanks. My personal philosophy is that there are almost as many ways to keep a reef as there are people who keep them. I realize you are frustrated, and even hurt because of what has happened. I also know Mark can be abrasive at times. I believe he truly wants to help but comes across in exactly the wrong way sometimes. I know I have had more than one disagreement with Mark, but we've always managed to work things out. Please know that WMAS is here to help you with your questions, and if you ever need information or help please don't hesitate to pm or even email me. I may not answer right away (I'm usually on late at night) but I will do my best to get back to you asap. Starting out in reefkeeping can be frustrating, especially when getting into the world of SPS, I think every person here can say they have lost corals for apparently no reason at all. I know I have. I hope that you'll continue to post here on the boards for help. I know I will continue to do my best to help answer questions and solve problems with anyone who posts. Also feel free to call or text me on my cell (the number in my sig) any time and I'll do my best to answer any questions for you.
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 9:03pm |
This is the thread that would ( not) end yes it goes on and on my friend some people started typing it... Yeah anyway how is the coral? edited for typo stupid envy touch
Edited by PDoug - April 24 2011 at 9:11pm
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(307)679-7898 Phillip Douglass 75 Gallon Reef Tank
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:33pm |
thanxs capnmorgan I have heard many good things bout your tank and would love to come see it sometime. pdoug-well it seems the same no worse no better. They dipped it at aquatic dreams. I brought it home and have watched it. and if it starts gettin worse i will just get it fragged.
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:40pm |
Thank you capt. We will deff PM you.
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:41pm |
@Doug, the coral doesn't look any worse...
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:48pm |
Synchronised posting ! I love it reminds me of arguing with myself . As for the Coral Hope it works out good for you
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:49pm |
lol yea that was funny I didnt even know she was posting. thanx alot
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 10:56pm |
lol we have done that a couple times.
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 11:08pm |
I am glad the coral hasn't gotten worse! Pam
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 11:44pm |
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 5:38pm |
So hows the coral doing...
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 5:55pm |
jcoulter17 wrote:
So hows the coral doing...
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If you came over more often you'd know... :-P Geeze do I stink? You never come over any more.
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 6:00pm |
I know how the coral is doing. I just wanted people to read this post again.....
This is not my quote but someone else from this post
You know it is really frustrating to me that more and more people that
are coming to this forum for answers and help are being left frustrated,
hurt, angry, and confused because of the way they are being treated.
There are so many people in this hobby with the knowledge and the know
how to help people along ( especially noobies) and that is why they come
to the board is to get answers... not belittled. After all this is a
hobby we all want to enjoy.. can't we all enjoy it together no matter
how many years we have been in it?
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