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Turbo Snail 
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 2:13pm |
I'm new to the site and I really enjoy the message boards. However, (being a web developer of my own) I do notice some bugs and lag with your message board.
1) When viewing the message board for the first time I notice that the icons next to each message will be a different (usually darker) color so that you can see which articles you have viewed and which ones you have not. However, after viewing like 2 articles the site just assumes I have read all articles and the icons all go lighter.....kinda annoying when you are trying to make sure you read all messages
2) The message board is very choppy. All other links on your site are quick and scroll smoothly. However, the message board gives me a headache trying to catch up with all the abrupt choppiness.
Just my $0.02.
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 2:18pm |
after viewing like 2 articles the site just assumes I have read all articles and the icons all go lighter.
I agree .. It does make it a bit of a PIA to follow threads. This also
happens if you read your PMs before you look at the new messages.
The message board is very choppy.
I have not had this problem. 
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 2:55pm |
About rule #1: You don't have to read all the threads! It will make you nuts!
Jake has set up this communication tool for us. He pays for it, and does a lot of work to put in our requests. It does have a glich here and there, but for what we pay, we are getting way more than our moneys worth!
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 3:00pm |
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I think Jake is working on problem 1 (marking everything read before actually read). Not sure about your second concern, but it seems that lately the bandwidth has been so great on the board that it's slowed down access (at least for me it has).
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 3:33pm |
Turbo-
Search this site for "active topics" and you'll see that Jake is working on problem number one. I still say the easiest thing to do is to just open up all the topics in new windows then close them each as you read them. That is what I've always done.
As for the site speed. Yes Jon you are correct, the site has been slowing down recently.
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 4:22pm |
Turbosnail , since you are a web developer how about donating some time to make things run more smoothly
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Jake Pehrson
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 4:50pm |
The message board is currently running off of an Access database. The database has become very large and therefore has started to make the web site run slower.
The fix for this is converting over to SQL database, which I have plans to do in the next couple of weeks.
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 4:56pm |
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 5:04pm |
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I bet SQL helps a lot. Access sucks.
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Jake Pehrson
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 5:51pm |
 fj40fax wrote:
I bet SQL helps a lot. Access sucks.
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SQL should be much faster.
The only thing nice about Access is it was very portable.
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Turbo Snail
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 9:31pm |
That makes sense. Didn't know you were running Access. I'm sure a SQL database things will be much faster. I don't want anyone to misinterpret what I'm trying to say here. I think the site is great and I'm thankful for all of your hard work. You deserve much kudos!! I'm sure your "To Do" list is a continual growing list which will never be accomplished......much like mine. Just food for thought when an opportunity arrises for an upgrade. Thanks for all that you do.
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 11:21pm |
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Hmmm - makes me wonder what the back end looks like? How normalized is it? I can see how access getting large could slow things down. Is oracle too pricey?
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 11:37pm |
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Whoa... access eh?
Jake are you familiar with Mambo? It's free, and extremely powerful.
I recommend taking a look at it...
For an example of a site that uses it. My buddy useses it: eliterides.com
Let me know if you have any questions about it, and I'll get you in contact
with m y buddy.
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Jake Pehrson
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 10:53am |
It is extremely common to use access for the backend for lower traffic web sites.
I will be moving the database to a MS-SQL as soon as I get time.
Xacttech,
I am familiar with Mambo, and have used it in the past. It is very clean, and powerful, but it would take a lot of work to switch it out. Switching the message board to SQL will be fairly quick. Moving the entire site would take some time, but is something I would consider doing in the future.
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 11:30am |
Jake-
I do have another item for you. I can't find some old posts. I'm not sure if it is a search problem or if they are just gone from the forums because of the server move. For instance I was going to bump my April Fool's post from last year, but can't find it anywhere. There was an anemonefish post that I was looking for a couple weeks ago and that too was gone. I've had this happen a couple times.
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Posted: May 24 2005 at 11:20pm |
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Hey, do you need any help with this stuff? I'm a professional programmer and have done quite a bit of stuff with SQL and web pages; I'm not sure how much time I could donate, or if you could even use any help, but just let me know.
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 1:49am |
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Where is Jake? Looks like he hasn't been on for about a week; I pm'd him about getting my status changed to member but he hasn't been on since I sent the message.
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 8:07am |
He is at a Jedi training camp for 3 more days. I'll switch over your account right now.
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:27am |
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Sweet, thanks Adam!
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