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Topic: Reef Tour Suggestions for 2008
Posted By: BobC63
Subject: Reef Tour Suggestions for 2008
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 11:52pm
 
I  had some ideas on ways to improve next years Reef Tour... they came to me while sitting around my rather empty Tour house this weekend...
 
Feel free to debate these or suggest alternatives or even totally different ideas Clap:
 
 
 
1)I believe we should have the Tour a little earlier in the year (like Sept instead of Oct)... Why? Well, the weather would probably be nicer, almost certainly drier, and our Tour homes in the more northern Counties wouldn't have to worry about snow like they did this year... in fact, I would suggest the "BBQ" for late August (around the 20 - 25th so it's not too hot out) with the Tour 2 weeks later (around Sept. 10th)...
 
 
2)  Make sure in advance there are no 'major' Utah events the same weekend as the Tour. Like General Conference Weekend OuchOuchOuch. I mean, that's a "biggie" here in Utah LOL Now, I'm not LDS, but some of my friends are - and the more religious ones don't do anything else during Conference Weekend except the Conference... not even Reef Tours of friends housesDisapprove
 
3)  We need to do alot more here in Utah County to attract more homes to the Tour. This is not just a "Club" responsibility; All of us Utah County WMAS members (including me) need to recruit more current WMAS members to join the 2008 Tour - and more non-members to sign up and join the Club. I mean, we have Aquatica, Reef Runners, Where's Nemo, Jays Jungle (and a whole bunch of Petco's and PetSmart's)... so you know the support for reefkeeping is plentiful throughout the County. But only seven Tour homes in all of UT Co....? That's just lame ConfusedConfusedConfused There were multiple towns in SL County with a dozen or more Tour homes just in the 1 town!!! A couple of people mentioned the idea of a seperate Tour Day for UT County... but I don't see that as something worth pursuing if we end up with only 7 Utah County Tour Homes Confused if we had 50, then, maybe...LOL 
 
4) How about some level of LFS "sponsorship" of the Tour? In exchange for allowing a nice poster-sized flyer in their storefront window, and maybe a stack of flyers on their counter, a store can be listed on all the Tour media as "an Official Sponsor of the 2008 WMAS Reef Tour..."
 
I would even go further... you ever see those "raffle" boxes that they have on some store counters, where you fill out a basic info ticket and drop it in the box?
 
Well, hHow about a Reef Tour Raffle where we give away a basic SW setup (like maybe a 55g tank / stand / PC hood, small skimmer, heater, maybe a couple of Mjs or Korallias...? Get all these LFS - since everyone knows that we steer alot of business their way - to 'donate' 1 item each (or a cash equivalent) and then we 'raffle' it off - no purchase necessary - to some lucky winner (announced) at the October meeting. Better yet, only non WMAS members are eligible to participate in the drawing - and the Club throws in a 1 year free membership! Clap We gain alot of exposure for the Tour (and a new member Smile), the LFS' gain a new customer and good PR for them, too!
 
The ironic thing about this suggestion is that I would bet the 'smaller guys' like a BST or Urban Aquatics or Ewalds would be alot easier to persuade to participate than the more "mainstream" stores... but I still think it would be a great PR move for the Tour , and the Club - - - and the stores!!!Big%20smile
 
5) Another "suggestion" (especially if the time of the year for the Tour was moved from Oct to Sept):
 
Instead of 9AM - 4 PM (7 hours) how about 10AM  - 6 (or even 7 or 8) PM?
 
Gain an hour (or more) of Tour time, easier to be prepared at 10AM than 9AM (unless you all like getting up at 6:30AM to  run outside putting up lawn signs, then back inside to scrape glass, wipe down salt creep and topoff your tanks LOL), and even at 8 PM in Sept it wouldn't be dark yet - unlike October when it starts to get dark at like 6:30 at night...
 
 
??? Question


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Posted By: Sitaga
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 11:55pm
I would like to comment on #5 of Carlso63's list.  I like the idea of extending the tour times, however I feel some people might not want to commit that much time to the tour.  Would it be possible to add something to the booklet that states "Tours times range from 9AM to 8PM." then each home could list its own hours.  If they don't want to open until 10 or 11AM, that's fine.. If they want to close up their homes at 4PM, that's fine also. 
 
Maybe that adds a complexity level that just isn't worth the effort, but I thought I would toss it out there anyway!
 
Bill


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Posted By: Debbles
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 11:56pm
Great suggestions!! I agree with them all and would be willing to help in any area that I could.
 
DebBig%20smile


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Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 12:09am
I personally would rather see many smaller reef tours throughout the year, or even on different weekends of the same month.  Then you could have an east side SLC, west side SLC, UT county and Davis County.  Attendance would go way up just from club members.  We are, after all, the one's most interested in seeing all those beautiful tanks.  I hardly ever make it to SLC, but if I knew I could see a dozen tanks in SLC in one afternoon, I'd schedule myself out.

I also like Bob's suggestion about sponsoring a tank give away for non-members only.  They could enter 1 entry for each house visited, and those could be collected at each stop and submitted at the next meeting and a winner drawn.


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Posted By: BobC63
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 12:18am
I like that idea about "1 entry per house visited" Fax !!! Clap

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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 6:22am
I like the idea of different areas on different days but I don't know if we could support more that 3 areas, 4 if we could get enough people in Southern Utah to open their homes. I'm guessing it would take 5 or 6 to get a number of people to make the drive. I could see North, Salt lake area, Utah County and Southern Utah.
 
Mike


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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 8:58am
Great suggestions! Keep them coming!

And remember to keep up the enthusiasm for next year!!!!!


Posted By: Kevin
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 10:01am
I would like to see a map made on google maps with all the locations placed on there, with the info of each location (address, name, tank description, directions) put on the map. It is easy to do, and it allows people to see exactly where all the locations are so they can better plan their trip.


Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 10:10am
We could start with Salt Lake as the "Big Bang" kickoff area, with other areas on the following weekend for those that didn't quite get their fix, and so the SLC people could decide to go north (Davis) or south (UT).  St George will likely always be kind of independant, so it could be the same day as SLC.  I think very few would make the trip from SLC to St. George anyway, look how few made the trip from SLC to UT county.  (thanks Mike and Jeremy)

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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 10:13am

The biggest one for us down here was the choice of weekends. Please, please, please choose a weekend in September and please do consult with the MB when choosing a date so that everyone can check to see if it conflicts with something else that would significantly detract from the event.

As far as getting LFS support, that has been a battle from the inception of the club and will always be.
 
The signs I put out on the main road and the arrowed signs pointing the way did more for me than the flyers at the LFS.
 
Next year I hope that I can take the time to do the advance planning to get the RT into the Spectrum Newspaper. The spreads in the newspaper have always been the single biggest source of publicity.


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Posted By: fj40fax
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 10:21am
Oh and I agree with Bob, for UT county to be a success we need way more tanks on the tour.  I know there are way more tanks down here that did not participate.  SLC always has a big turn out because you can see so many tanks in a short amount of time.

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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 2:14pm
I agree about the choice of weekends. 

I also think that the separate tours is a great idea, simply because so many of us have expressed interest in wanting to see others' tanks on the reef tour but can't because we're on the reef tour.

Earlier in the year is also a good idea because the chance for inclement weather rises as fall keeps going.

About the hours: Does anyone keep data on when 'peak' hours are?  Can we empirically take a stab or just think it through?  If we could target the peak hours that would probably help those who feel like they have to be on the tour for 12 hours.  I also think (no offense) that the individual hour times is a bad idea because it makes people have to work extra to plan which houses they're going to.  This is kind of a strange thing from an outsider's perspective-- just showing up at someone's door and asking to be let in.  The easier we make it on people the more likely they'll come.  I like the idea of keeping it at a good solid block, earlier or later is indifferent to me.  If you can't meet that time as a guest house on the tour, then don't worry about it and don't kill yourself to try to.

This was my first time on the tour.  If I'm still in Utah next year, I'll likely do it again.


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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 2:18pm
Oh, I have another one.

Do we currently advertise for the reef tour on the classified fish section of ksl.com classifieds?  I don't know if ksl.com offers that level of specificity when it comes to where your ads show up, but it could always be tried.


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Posted By: larhalli
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 2:33pm
I think that depending on the number of tanks on the tour, it is impossible to see them all in one day.  Even in Salt Lake County. I was only able to see about half of the ones listed.  I think a map with the houses listed would also help.  Make it a two day event and give the people who are willing to show their tanks the option to whether they are willing to show their tanks on Sunday.  If not then those are the houses you would need to see on Saturday.  Different weekends might work better also, for North Utah and those South of Salt Lake County.  Salt Lake County could also be divided to East Salt Lake County and West Salt Lake County on separate weekends.  Maybe that would just be too crazy though and doing it on one weekend might be better.

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Posted By: Jake Pehrson
Date Posted: October 10 2007 at 5:43pm
Thanks for all the suggestions.  I have been involved with the reef tour for quite a few years.  Here are some of my comments.
 
Carlso63
#1 We used to have the tour earlier in the year.  If the weather is good it sometimes hinders the turn out more then helps (people want to use up the last bit of summer).   I think the snow was just bad luck.
#2 I complete agree and have heard this from quite a few people.
#3 I agree.  The more people in an area the better the turn out.
#4 We have worked closely with LFS in the past and even had them on the reef tour.  The problem is many stores don't want to advertise an event that may steer their customers to a competitor.
#5 I agree.  10-6 seems like a good time.
 
Sitaga
I understand where you are coming from, but it is hard enough to plan tour visits as it is.  Imagine if you have to work around time schedules as well.
 
fj40fax
The reef tour is a major undertaking (whether it looks like it or not from the outside).  Multiple tour would make this even a bigger project, but we have looked into in the past and I ma sure it will be discussed for next year.
 
Kevin
This was attempted this year, but many homes are right next to each other and the map just looks clutter and give you no real information.  We would probably either have to have this an online only tool or have different maps for different areas.  We can definitely look into this next year.  One of the other problem we run into is that people submit changes very late.  We had people add to and removed from the tour a day before it happened. 
 
chris.rogers
We advertise as much as possible, but we are just a bunch of guys volunteering to get this thing done.  That is why we ask the members to help out with getting the word out.  Everyone should do whatever they can to promote the tour.  So next year feel free to take the initiative and make a post on ksl.
 
 
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The club is run by people that are willing to help.  Next year if you can make maps, get us on the news, make a post on ksl, or anything that would help please volunteer your time and talents.
 
I am sure the new presidency will review this thread before organizing next years tour.


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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 3:47pm
Jake: I would be hesitant to act in the name of the club without being in the presidency.  Would an act of that nature be kosher?  Getting the word out any which way possible (besides hostage situations, obviously...  LOL)

By the by, I'm not too bad with computer graphics.  I think next year I'll volunteer to help the maps.  I had some good ideas but was just too busy to implement them.  If Mrs. Rogers and I around next year, count me in for helping out.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 11:36am
I think an opinion for us who come down from Boise to see your event would be to break it up into 2 days... Give us the ability to make arrangements to see more tanks... and extend the times... Maybe put how long each house is willing to let people view... so from 8-8pm this house will be open for viewing which would help us prioritize.... We tried to get to as many tanks as possible but it was really hectic... and would have liked to see more...


Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 14 2007 at 1:57pm
That would have worked for me and possibly others. I understand you want to see lots of tanks but we (as you do too) like to show off our tanks and I would have enjoyed talking to all of you longer.
 
Mike


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Posted By: GARFVolunteer
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 2:43pm
Having been the volunteer to arrange many of the IMAS reef tours I understand the pains one goes through. 
 
I am sure that scheduling it on the same week-end as General Conference was an accidental oversight.  I am glad it was on the week-end it was because it was the only week-end I could have made it.
 
I was impressed with the documentation provided this year.  When you think of the massive amount of time involved to create the documentation you will appreciate it.  The lovely and gracious Monica and I very seldom argue.  One time of the year I get in trouble is the reef tour and mostly because of the time involved.  So this year I was very lazy and just provided addresses.  No overall map, tank descriptions, driving directions, nothing just addresses...  However the lovely and gracious Monica and I were the perfect loving couple as we had the lowest showing ever.
 
Thanks,
 
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 2:46pm
Just to clarify....
Actually, the date was very well thought out.  If we had to do it again, we'd still do it on that date.  Selecting the date is process and we've learned how to select that date.  Hence the reason the tour was successful again this year.
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Posted By: Gahlenfr
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 3:03pm
So are you saying that the Conference Weekend was chosen on purpose?  If so why?  You miss out on quite a few people it would seem to me......


Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 3:24pm
We received several complaints that the tour was on conference weekend.... however far fewer complaints than when the tour was on a day that byu was playing, or that utah was playing... and surprisingly fewer complaints than when we had the tour on peach days.
 
We looked at a lot of things going on this fall, that was certainly the best day for the tour.  I don't want to drag this thread into all the planning stuff.  I really like to just listening here to the suggestions.  I just wanted to clarify that the date wasn't picked out of a hat or anything.
 
Adam


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Posted By: GARFVolunteer
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

however far fewer complaints than when the tour was on a day that byu was playing, or that utah was playing...
 
And most importatly, Boise State was not playing...Wink


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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 4:10pm
Quote We received several complaints that the tour was on conference weekend.... however far fewer complaints than when the tour was on a day that byu was playing, or that utah was playing... and surprisingly fewer complaints than when we had the tour on peach days.


Huh.  Interesting.


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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 15 2007 at 8:00pm
Yes, and we even get complaints about having the tour when Boise St. is playing.  We had several reasons for using Oct 6, but Utah/BYU/Boise St were all a part of that. 
 
I remember talking to Scott about that 3 months ago.  He was very excited to have the tour not on a BSU game so he could bring down the whole clan.
Adam


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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 8:38am
Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

We received several complaints that the tour was on conference weekend.... however far fewer complaints than when the tour was on a day that byu was playing, or that utah was playing... and surprisingly fewer complaints than when we had the tour on peach days.
 
We looked at a lot of things going on this fall, that was certainly the best day for the tour.  I don't want to drag this thread into all the planning stuff.  I really like to just listening here to the suggestions.  I just wanted to clarify that the date wasn't picked out of a hat or anything.
 
Adam
 
Many of us who would have complained about it kept their mouths shut, so how do you know it wasn't a big drawback for many?  No offense, Adam, but if the day was chosen to avoid a football game, fine- just say it.  We only hear what we want to hear.  I know my neighbors wouldn't have come because of General Conference.


Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 9:14am
I don't think we can choose a date that will make everyone happy. The date was not chosen willy-nilly. I'm sorry that some feel this was a bad choice. 
 
I would actually like to see the tour much later in the year  (like around Thanksgiving). This fits MY schedule much better!
 
I am encouraged to see so much interest in the reef tour planning. I hope this continues next fall!


Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 9:40am
Adam, Shane H: Definitely not an easy task to plan.

I am like Corey, however, in that I didn't whine about it and decided to just watch Conference and pause it if people came over.  Now that we're taking suggestions I felt it necessary to let my voice be heard.

Plan ahead and I whine.  Ask me what I think later and I whine.  Kobayashi maru.  Wink  (A reference to Star Trek Starfleet Academy test wherein a cadet is placed in a no-win situation.)


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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 9:41am
Shane- me too!
We really only have two days to choose from for the Reef Tour.  First Saturday in October, or First Saturday in November.  We try to tie it in with a meeting and guest speaker.  I guess on November 3rd we'll know if we picked the right date.
 
10 Steps to Hosting A Reef Tour
 
Step One- find a weekend in October or November.  It use to be in September... many people complained the weather was too nice and needed to be later in the fall.  We had it once in November... people complained it was too snowy and cold.
Step Two- look at the first weekends of October or November.  Hopefully have the reef tour just following a club meeting.  Otherwise people complained about getting posters, flyers, and not having all that for them just before the tour.
Step Three- Contact a guest speaker.  See if we can get a speaker to go on the tour (remember Scott Michael last year).  Make a reef tour weekend and have the speaker available for those who show their tanks on the tour.
Step Four- Book a speaker that will give a general presentation helpful to people who don't have tanks.  Because the Reef Tour is the same week as a club meeting we often get new people at the meeting for the first time.  They see reef tour ads and visit the site.  So we like to have a speaker at the meeting, just two days before the tour, who will give basic info.
Step Five- Check the BYU and Utah football schedule.  Sorry Scott, I only check the BSU schedule way down the list (see step 8).  History has shown that we'll get plenty o' emails if BYU is playing a homecoming game against Colorado St. on Reef Tour day.  And remember a couple years ago when I scheduled around byu but still put the tour on the day utah played air force... won't do that again.
Step Six- Check the Peach Days calendar.  If it is Peach Days weekend we can forget about having a north end of the tour.  Heil has made that very clear.
Step Seven- Give the best reef tour date to the PRESIDENCY.  To be honest, if the presidency goes for it... we go for it.  If you don't like it... I suggest joining the presidency. 
Step Eight- Contact Scott in Boise... appologize if it is a BSU game day and tell them we hope to see the Boise crowd next year.  Remember 3 years ago when byu played bsu on a Friday night.  That made planning the reef tour the next day a piece of cake.
Step Nine- Ask for area leaders... don't everyone volunteer at once.
Step Ten- Tell people to sign up and advertise.
 
 
Not that anyone cares but we did have a great turnout this year.  Corey had probably double the number of visitors as last year, and the weekend plans with our guest went even better than expected.
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Posted By: Debbles
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 9:44am
Originally posted by Shane H Shane H wrote:

I don't think we can choose a date that will make everyone happy.
 
I totally agree.  It is like that anytime you plan something.  You just have to go with what works for the majority of the people.  I personally had no idea it was conference weekend or that it avoided football games.  I just wish the weather had been better, but you can't plan the weather.  It was our first year to experience the tour and we had a ball.  Thanks again Presidency!!!!
 
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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 10:11am
A couple more things I've considered:
 
1) Limiting the "official" tour to the SLC area
     Extreme North and extreme South inter-club tour at a later date
2) Holding the tour on two consectutive Saturdays. One for the SLC and Utah counties, one for Davis and North counties.
3) Making the tour every-other year, rather than an annual event. In hopes of getting a larger turn out and more club members willing to participate in advertising, and tour coordination.
4) Making Adam the permanent reef tour champion. He did a spectacular job this year!


Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 10:19am
I'll probably add
Step ?- Contact X96 to avoid the Big Ass Show.  That was pretty stupid of us to plan our reef tour the same day they have their biggest event, considering they are the only radio station that gives us free advertising.
 
I'm all for hearing suggestions.  Please do share with the presidency any thoughts you may have.  I just don't want people to think we drew a date out of a hat or anything. 
Adam
ps- Heil, I'll only do the reef tour again if none of the other 200 members volunteer to do so... which seems to be the case each year


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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 10:32am
If WMAS could have a trained monkey do a commercial on late night KJZZ, that'd be awesome.




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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 10:54am
I like the tour being every year and I think we had enough visitors to support that. I do like the idea of two consecutive weekends. I also decline to chair the Reef Tour next year. One down and 199 to go and Adam can do it again Clap He does a fantastic job!
 
I think it was a good weekend and we had great participation from the public.
 
Mike


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Posted By: CrimsRayne
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 6:09pm

This was my first time attending the reef tour and I only got to about half the houses I wanted to... There is SO much to see and not enough time to see it.  It would be nice to break it up into two days. Also since hosts aren't able to see everyone elses houses maybe have the "north" one day and "south" another.  That way they can see some of the other tanks too.  As my hubby said "There is no way we are going to Ogden AND Provo!" LOL



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Posted By: Cody Pearce
Date Posted: October 16 2007 at 11:12pm

I like the idea of splitting the reef tour into areas to get a better turn out and just rotate which area it is going to be in each year.  That way half the club gets to go on the tour and the other be the tour.  Just my 2 cents, but I realize that a lot can change from year to year.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 11:20am

It unfortunately will never be done on 2 days... like a saturday and a sunday because the area's religion doesn't permit... Alot more we wanted to see just weren't able.... would my husband and I do it again.... maybe... maybe not... we were a little disappointed that we felt the focus was more on technology then actuall view of tank... The one person who had by far the best looking tank... didn't seem to care or know about for that matter all of the technology and things that could be done... I am not bashing your club please don't take it that way.... I was just really expecting with the amount of stores and tanks you have down there to see some real rare and exotic stuff.... I just didn't see what I thought I was going to see... however when that next time comes I think I will individually make arrangements for us to see things to help enable more to be seen... I know you can't accomidate everything but maybe give us the tools to do it ourselves... like user names etcs...

We still had fun.... Thank you for having us!
 
Alicia & Nate


Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 11:32am
It unfortunately will never be done on 2 days... like a saturday and a sunday because the area's religion doesn't permit...
The Utah Pond tour is Saturday and Sunday.  Don't count it out... we've just never wanted to spend the time and energy to do two days Embarrassed
we were a little disappointed that we felt the focus was more on technology then actuall view of tank...
I can definitely agree with you here.  That is a big pet peeve of mine in this hobby.  In fact I'm really excited about our next club meeting, because it will address part of this problem.  But don't get me going on technology and products and trade shows and grrrr Angry
I was just really expecting with the amount of stores and tanks you have down there to see some real rare and exotic stuff....
Here I do disagree.  I would hate to see tanks dominated by rare or exotic or limited edition or whatever else.  To heck with that, mushrooms and green stars are still the best.  I'm sorry you were looking for something rare... I've been discouraging that for years.
I know you can't accomidate everything but maybe give us the tools to do it ourselves...
Ummm, usernames, real names, phone numbers, maps, descriptions of tanks... what more could you want?
IdahoReefs.org
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I'll be kind and not even comment on that. Wink
Adam


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 11:44am
I knew you would be the first one Adam.... It was meant for you! :) I think you should just give us some of your fish stores... You guys can't be greedy and keep them all down there... Right now we drive long distances for our stuff... Just picked up a lot of things from Aquatic Dreams in Spokane.... We go to Upscales in portland as much as we can... and well then there was Salt Lake.......................with the user names... I don't remember on the version I had having that many on there... but I will make sure I have them all next time... I just didn't conversate on here prior so figured asking for that junk in the open might be weird...


Posted By: larhalli
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 1:58pm
If you needed a list of the local fish stores look at the link to the upper left.

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Larry Halliday

West Jordan


Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

It unfortunately will never be done on 2 days... like a saturday and a sunday because the area's religion doesn't permit...
The Utah Pond tour is Saturday and Sunday.


Yeah, but we are heathens. Our vice president makes a killer brew for the Friday night kick off party, and we party the whole weekend! What else is there to do for the weekend with a belly full of beer (since we can't drive) than sit around the pond, play loud music and drink home brew?














 And, snorkel....


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 8:25am
no... I didn't need a list for the local fish stores.... if you were asking me... I knew where they were..


Posted By: Bluespotjawfish
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 9:17am
Just adding a few cents.  First, a big thank you to those who organize this event, I think it is cool. 
 
I was new to the board last fall, and had a very hard time figuring out what the reef tour was all about but it sounded interesting (though intimidating). Confused I saw a few threads about it, but nothing that was real clear.  I'm sure that is an oversight on my part and that it was clear someplace, I just never found it.   I probably would have offered to be part of the tour anyway, but at the end of the day, the date conflicted with my dog shows LOL so didn't followup to get more details. 
 
I would like to be part of the tour next year provided I don't have dog shows that weekend LOL.  (No problem with football games or conference. LOLLOLLOL)
 
I think it would help to show a tank shot of the sites on the tour in your advertising (posters at fishstores, a link on this site, whatever, even a handout just before the tour).  This gives folks a preview of what to expect from a particular tank.   People like different things and this will help them know where to focus their time.  Clap
 
And, how come the link to the left only has reef tour pictures through 2005?  Confused
 
 


Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 9:28am
And, how come the link to the left only has reef tour pictures through 2005?
I'm so glad you said that.  LOL  I am so going to point this out to Jake right now....
Adam


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