Recommendations Forum
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Forum Name: Suggestion Box/Recommendations
Forum Description: This is the place to submit recommendations to the WMAS presidency.
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Topic: Recommendations Forum
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Subject: Recommendations Forum
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 2:52pm
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Shawn suggested that we make the Recommendations forum a place where anyone can post suggestions (no changes there) but deactivate the reply option (so you can't post replies). That way everyone can make their suggestions without having the conversation get out of hand.
Would you all prefer we allow replies to the recommendations forum, or would you prefer we not allow replies.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
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Posted By: ssilcox
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 3:04pm
All these changes? Why oh why? Oh the humanity of it all - just leave things like they were!! 
Joking. I think thats a great idea.
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Posted By: Debbles
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 3:15pm
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I think we should allow replies so that when we discuss the recommendations at presidency meetings have an insight to how the majority of the club feels.
Deb  ------------- Yes Mikey...I still have fins!!! |
Posted By: Ryan Thompson
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 3:18pm
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I think if you want to know how the club feels then do a poll. Have an other box on all polls. If someone disagrees then it can be done through PM instead of getting out of control on here. I like the way things run around here. I have never had an issue with anybody/anything on here. The club is great!
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Posted By: Andreason
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 3:23pm
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Club members need to be allowed to discuss ideas and things they want for the club. I post my suggestions in ignorance. I want feedback and why it won't work or if it has been tried etc. I want the discussion. Suggestions are not complaining, whining, or personally criticizing, and there really should be no drama. ------------- Andreason's |
Posted By: Summertop
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 5:21pm
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It's not the replies themselves. If everyone was mature and discussed them, that would be great. But, at least recently, many suggestions turn into something ugly.
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Posted By: larhalli
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 6:39pm
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I can see why one would not want a reply to a suggestion and I can see why one would. It is nice to be able to have replies as it keeps bumping the suggestion to the top of the page. Without that they may be lost in never never land.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 7:03pm
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Life can get ugly but that's life. It helps us appreciate the beauty. My vote is to leave the forum as is. Besides what good is a recommendation if it cannot create discussion. This is how we all find improvement together. We are all in this together. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: Bluespotjawfish
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 7:27pm
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If you don't allow replies then you end up with 20 threads about the same thing.
Any reply that is inappropriate can be deleted or a PM sent with a warning to correct it by a moderator. ------------- Home of the baby Picasso! |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:00am
| What Bluespotjawfish said. I believe if replies are not allowed then they will all be made in separate posts. Then the suggestion really does get buried where no one will ever find it again. |
Posted By: dons
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:01pm
| censorship is never a good thing when it pertains to the workings of the club. Things need to be talked about, hopefully in a civil way. The other post unfortunately went down a sad road. Should the changes pertaining to the club stay in the paid members section, that way you wouldn't have people signing on with a fake account and posting anonymous inflammatory statements. |
Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 1:06pm
Just ban the flamers, Put them in time out , With Deb And Dion. ------------- WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks. |
Posted By: Cameron
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 2:23pm
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Jeff, I dont understand why you have a problem with gay people.
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Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:27pm
  I still think you cute cammy baby...------------- WHAT KINDA GUM????... Give em 2 sticks. |
Posted By: Cameron
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:33pm
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I know Jeff. Im not a flamer though
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Posted By: tazman1982
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 4:36pm
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I ? that at times Cam!! LOL ------------- 75 Reef 55 Reef |
Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:13pm
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Wow I didn't know that about you Cameron. Learn something new everyday.....
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Posted By: Cameron
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:21pm
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Wow so tempted to say something about your mom and last night.....She liked it.
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Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:34pm
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see how it gets,....
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Posted By: tazman1982
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:46pm
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yes dinner was good thanks for saying so. The mash taters and gravy, some lemon pepper chicken. I am glad you liked it! ------------- 75 Reef 55 Reef |
Posted By: Cameron
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 5:46pm
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Posted By: jpiotrowski
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 8:59pm
| Obviously, if you keep it like it is you will need to moderate. As with other reccomedation posts the latest one 'turned down a sad road' due to peoples ignorances. Why have a reccomendation tab if people are attacked for their ideas? To a point I really don't care what people say about me but I am not going to jump down people's throats. There were some valid points made, research, but unfortunately there were a lot of the same old people making the same old attacks and not many of them came from the Fab 6 ( I joined the Rebel forces). |
Posted By: Turbostud653
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 6:54pm
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My option is this:
I like having replies so that one person can state there views and have others input. If it starts to get bad or out of hand, then you could lock the thread. ------------- Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands. |
Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: January 18 2009 at 8:11pm
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( I joined the Rebel forces). John - please expound. Is your intent to help the club, help fellow hobbyists, or just to nit pick the decisions of the presidency. If it is the latter, please explain your motivations. What do you hope to gain?
I really like the recommendations forum, but anymore it seems a place where unpaid members can take shots at the presidency (present or past). The "rebel forces" seem to believe there is some conspiracy behind the choices the presidency making. Its tiring having to defend these decisions at every turn. If the WMAS and utahreefs.com is so evil, why do you come here? We can take this up via PM is you prefer, but I am interested in your motivations.
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Posted By: bannshy
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 8:22am
Unpaid members is really not accurate.
This is a group of Paid Members from the past, maybe the term should be "Fab X"
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Shane H wrote:Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 8:48am
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Hey Bannshy, I would say its accurate. Non paid would make someone a guest, not a member. Black/white? Membership/volunteerism is going up. Therefore things must be moving in the right direction due to people being happy. Why then must we be constantly defending our decisions to the same "few"
Lately a "few" guests are unhappy with the way the banquet was set up, or where the meeting place is or..... the list goes on. These "few" are in the minority but yet they want the club to bend/change to be what they envision rather than what the majority wants. These "few" chose to neither support the club (being a member) nor support the way the presidency handles the club business.
The election had a clear difference in the way the two candidates wanted the direction of the club to go. That is over and it was handled the way the "few" wanted. Meaning changing procedure at the last minute to make them happy and end any question of voter fraud. The votes were tallied and the overwhelming majority voted for the path we are on.
I'm sorry their agenda was voted down. That they feel sort changed in some way. However I do take a different attitude with posts from supporters of the club that I can count on and believe will do all they can do to help. And guests that do nothing but question everything in an attempt to cause problems.
If the election had been even kinda close then I would need to definitely rethink the direction of our progress.
That being said, Please use the recommendation forum for what it is for. Recommendations of what you think could be improved, Things you would like to see done, Speaker choices, etc. They are all discussed by the presidency.
Please understand that if your recommendation is not enacted it is not because its a bad recommendation. Or someone doesn't like you. There can be many reasons one is not enacted. Already tried and failed, cost, impractical, logistics etc. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 10:08am
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Please understand that if your recommendation is not enacted it is not because its a bad recommendation. Or someone doesn't like you. There can be many reasons one is not enacted. Already tried and failed, cost, impractical, logistics etc.
That is very well said.
I agree with Heil. If someone has an issue with the club or presidency they should let me know. So far, I'm not hearing anything. So feel free to pm me anytime or email at mailto:[email protected] - [email protected]
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |