Start of RBTA prop system
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Topic: Start of RBTA prop system
Posted By: Jeremy
Subject: Start of RBTA prop system
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 6:05pm
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I picked up some LBTR from Mark Peterson on my way home from vacation in Montana. I told Mark I was going to use the rock in a rose bubble tip anemone propagation system. I sent him some pictures so he could check out what I have so far. He asked me to share them here with you guys. These were all in a 46 gallon bowfront tank with PC lights. Hopefully they will grow faster now with a 400 watt metal halide:) They are all clones of each other. I have cut them and they split on their own. They have all bubbled up like this in the new tank.
 I had just gotten them all off the rocks from the old tank and let them loose in the 50 gallon rubbermaid stock tank. I put some pvc scrap in the tank for them to attach to. The long pvc piece has holes drilled in it for flow (like an underwater spray bar).
 As I got them off the rocks I put them in the baskets until they were all removed from the rocks.
 Close up of one of the baskets full of anemones. There were about 20 in this basket. Most of them are small. They like to group together.
 DIY stretch lumenarc type reflector for the tank.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 6:18pm
| Very interesting idea. I guess I've never considered anemone propagation like this. |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 7:52pm
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That is cool!
Mike -------------  |
Posted By: tropi_gal
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 10:29pm
| I love it! Great way to save our environment :) |
Posted By: Turbostud653
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 10:41pm
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Welcome Jeremy. What do you plan to do with them? ------------- Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands. |
Posted By: Jake Pehrson
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 10:48pm
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Jeremy, You may want to line the bottom of the tank with patio carpet. This allows the anemones to attach to the carpet, but also allows you to easy remove the anemones for sale or propagation. ------------- Jake Pehrson Murray http://coralplanet.com" rel="nofollow - coralplanet.com http://utahbeeranch.com" rel="nofollow - :) |
Posted By: Jeremy
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 11:07pm
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Turbostud,
Hopefully one day I'll have a few hundred and supply them to a wholesale place in LA or something like that. I'm just trying to build up my stock right now. I've probably traded and sold about 20 so far. It looks like I have about 50 right now. Some of them are really small.
Jake, I've read about the carpet on the archived forums on marine depot but I never did see pictures of anyone that was succesful with it in the tank. Do you know anyone that uses it? They actually seem to attach well to the rubbermaid tank.
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Posted By: downhill_biker
Date Posted: July 01 2009 at 11:43pm
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that is pretty awesome. i wish you the best. part of my frag tank will be for anemone prop, maybe...if i decide to get out of anemones i have a sweet super purple foot RBTA that i picked up from someone in oregon. dont know if it's worth the risk of stinging my corals and other anemones died in move...so may get rid of it. very nice setup, love it. ------------- Make sure you post your best pictures every month in our POTM forum. |
Posted By: ksarcury
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 7:31am
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Hey Jeremy
Very cool! Where did you get the reflector material you used for the light?
Thanks.
Kenna ------------- 90 gal. reef 12 g. nano w/acans 34 g. salano system |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 8:29am
This is very common. I have a ton of pics that I'll try to post this weekend.
Also, if the carpet doesn't work out well for you, I'd recommend using something like window screen.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Jeremy wrote:Posted By: Turbostud653
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 9:48am
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What do RTBA go for? ------------- Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands. |
Posted By: Jeremy
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 10:06am
The reflector material is 95% reflective german hammertone aluminum and I bought it at a local hydroponics store. It came in a 2'X4' sheet. I saw it online from sunlight supply for about $150 shipped for 4 2X4 sheets, but I only needed one sheet. The local store sold me one piece for $40. I was originally going to go with the skylight extension tube from Lowes or Homedepot but saw on RC that this stuff is thicker. Plus, some say the hammertone finish is better.
I've seen rose anemones from $90 to $150 in fishstores around here. They are normally bleached too. The best way to get one is from someone in your club. Then you know it is adapted to living in an aquarium, and they are usually much cheaper from another reefer.
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 10:12am
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I agree with Jeremy on that. Prices for RBTA are all over the place. The last couple I bought cost me $10 from people in this club. I see them for $30 all the time at (as in dozens of them) at trade shows. But I also see them for $80 in local stores.
Crazy.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 10:54am
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we do this too however they arent special enough to have their own tank :) they live in our clown breeding system ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 12:18pm
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Awesome Jeremy.
 Thanks for sharing.Is there a program you used to create the reflector pattern or did you draw it up yourself?
I have taken rocks out of my frag systems and broken them up to sell certain coral or anemone that were attached to one side.
If it were me I would place an inch of Oolitic sand on the bottom and then a layer of LBTR rubble all over the bottom of the tank. The anemones would then each have their own small rock or two. I would imagine the reason for using rug is that most hobbyists and coral farmers do not have access to LBTR.  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 2:35pm
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well usually you dont want to give the rock away. the reason for not having rock in there is easy access to remove anemones and propagate them ------------- I <3 Boxers Achilles tang lover |
Posted By: Jake Pehrson
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 2:47pm
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Like Adam I have seen the carpet used many times. It allows you to remove the anemone without any damage or stress to the foot. If you are able to remove the anemones easy from their current container then I wouldn't worry about. ------------- Jake Pehrson Murray http://coralplanet.com" rel="nofollow - coralplanet.com http://utahbeeranch.com" rel="nofollow - :) |
Posted By: Jeremy
Date Posted: July 02 2009 at 11:02pm
This site explains how to build the reflector.
http://www.reefdiversity.com/DIYPage/DIY_HTML/DIY_ReflectorIndex.htm - http://www.reefdiversity.com/DIYPag...lectorIndex.htm
This link has the pattern in different formats. I used the dwg file with a viewer so I could print it out without all the black. Then I just had it enlarged at Kinkos.
http://thebrian.net/reflector/ - http://thebrian.net/reflector/
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: July 03 2009 at 9:11am
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It is cool to see another successful DIYer. A few months ago I traded for a 250W MH to light a braceless 75 that was to be a frag tank. With no center brace the top is wide open so I figured a single 250 would light it perfectly, if I could get the light to spread out the full 4 foot length.
So I mapped out the reflective angles and devised a wood frame of plywood and 1x2's. I then carefully cut up the only piece of mirrored aluminum I had left. It needed to fit exactly on the frame without coming up short. It worked! Here are pics of it in the morning when the sun is shining on it. The light comes on from noon to 10PM ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: July 26 2009 at 2:32pm
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Thanks for the reminder... I forgot about this. Here are some pics of the carpet lined tanks, and the other common method of using a material like window screen to make baskets.
Adam
    ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Nano_Reefer
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 5:17pm
| How do you remove these from the rock without hurting them? I have about 4 of them I need to get of of the same piece of rock. |
Posted By: kay181
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 9:42pm
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wow way cool you said you just cut them and thay split i have a bta that is geting to big for my tank he is the size of salad plate he has never split how do get them to ------------- day light scares me im going back under |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:52pm
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kay181- if you can take a razor blade and cut it all the way through, all the way in half leaving two half circles, that is the best way to go.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: kay181
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 12:05am
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REALY HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO HEAL I MITE HAVE TO TRY IT ------------- day light scares me im going back under |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: July 28 2009 at 8:38am
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In anemone farms where they are feeding the anemones... they can cut them at least once per month. Sometimes they split them every two weeks.
In general I would give it a couple months because I don't know how much you are feeding, how much light you have, and things like that.
Adam ------------- Come to a meeting, they�re fun! |
Posted By: Jeremy
Date Posted: August 01 2009 at 11:32am
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Adam, Thanks for posting those pictures. It looks like most of them are done with a heavy plastic screen with a pvc frame. Are those pictures of a holding facility or a propagation type setup?
Nano Reefer- The best way to get them off the rock is to peel up the foot with your fingernail or a credit card. When the foot is in a hole it can be almost imposible to get to. I actually had to break a few pieces of rock to get the hard ones off when moving them to the new tank. You can try to get them to move on their own by adjusting flow or lighting. When they are walking the foot is swollen and they are easy to remove. Some recomend ice on the foot. Once I made a whole tray of RO/DI water popsicles and couldn't get one to move with them:) If you can't peel any off the rock I would just turn the rock over on a day you're home and check it every hour to see if they start to move to a spot that is easy to get to them. Then, if that doesn't work try pointing one of your powerheads at them. If you tear the foot a little peeling it of it will probably still make it. Just take your time and a few breaks if it isn't working out. Sometimes they start to move and hour later just from the stress you cause on the first attempt.
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