My 210 gallons of drama!!!
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Topic: My 210 gallons of drama!!!
Posted By: arthuriv
Subject: My 210 gallons of drama!!!
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 2:50am
So some of you know about the 210 gallon tank I bought last month that ended in tragedy in the driveway while bring it into the house. It ended up looking like this:
 Which then left all the LR, LS, coral, and fish to spend the next month living like this:
  I had these plumbed to a 40 gallon sump in the stand with a protien skimmer!
 So I think I should sign this up for tank of the month or maybe the 2010 Reef Tour! What do you think?
After a few weeks of trying to find new glass to replace the broken panel I leaned that All Glass Aquariums were on sale for 40% off. So I called around and found John down at Reef Runners who sold me a brand new 210 gallon tank for just alittle more than what it was going to cost for the new glass panel. So here it is my new 210 gallon tank:
  Unfortunitly the cat was the only thing that made it in the tank today! Due to the fact one of my overflow kits was missing a bulkhead. Hope to get one tomorrow and get this thing filled! So for now the LR, LS, coral, and fish are here still:
 A few thing I picked up for the tank:
 I'm going to try this out on the back of the tank. What do you think? Anyone tried this before? If so how was it?
Then I got some of this suff to put under my sand for the rocks to sit on:
 I also have one of these coming in tomorrow sometime:
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Posted By: Mad Dawg
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 3:19am
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Nice saltwater catfish.
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Posted By: jmorrell
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 11:35am
| the 210....not so good, but the totes look great! |
Posted By: providence
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 12:01pm
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what you doing with the broken 210 tank |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 12:04pm
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Why the eggcrate panel in the sand? Is there some kind of thing going around that rocks should sit on that rather than on the sand or touching the glass bottom?
FWIW that's not a good idea and is unecessary. Rocks are not that heavy in water and sitting on the sand is sufficient protection. I usually wiggle and push the base rocks almost down to the glass. They sit there just fine and never sink, unless a sand throwing goby digs under them. (Those guys are murder on a live sand bed anyway so I don't keep them.)
When it comes time to stir the sand the process will stop at the eggcrate. That's going to cause maintenance/tank health problems in the long term. I would not use eggcrate like that. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
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Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 12:40pm
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It just looks like the eggcrate is going to be used to prevent jumpers no =)? I see it as being on the top of the tank...
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 12:43pm
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He says on the picture its for UNDER the sand. I wouldn't do it. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 1:06pm
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ah =) lol my bad yeah I wouldn't do it either...
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Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 1:13pm
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It was suggested to me that if I wanted to have something like a Blue spotted jawfish that digs in the sand that I should place the eggcrate suff under the rocks. Also I have been told it is good for keeping the rock from creating pressure points on the glass. So your saying I shouldn't use the eggcrate then?
What do you thing of the mirrored film that I'm thinking of putting on the back of the tank?
Thank you!
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Posted By: Luckedout
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 1:42pm
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I wouldn't use the eggcrate either. There are better ways of keeping a jawfish, like a DIY Condo. Mirrors provide depth, so it could look pretty neat. It'd make the tank look deeper, plus it would provide a way to see back into corners and behinds rocks. I've never really seen it done personally so I can't say. I guess if you didn't like the look you could always take it off. It also depends on how you do your aquascaping. It'd look better with a more open tank. If you have a lot of rocks along the back it probably wouldn't be noticeable. ------------- -Ben 90g Mixed reef www.body-balancechiropractic.com |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 2:33pm
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I use eggcrate under my sand to prevent the rock from creating pressure points on the sand. As far as there being "better" ways to keep a jawfish, I like to let them dig their own burrow, it's really interesting to watch. If the rock is sitting right on bottom then they can't dig under it to make it collapse. Even if you build them a condo they may not choose to live in it. ------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 2:34pm
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I was thinking I would stack a pile of rock on one end of the tank and then maybe have a few piece come down the back but not alot and then a few smaller piece here and there as needed but I want to have a nice open sand bed in the middle and front of the tank. I also want to try and hide the powerheads in the rocks as best as possible as well. ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 2:36pm
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As for the eggcrate I wasn't planning on putting it throughout the whole tank. I was just thinking I would put it under the large rock pile I'm planning to put on the one end of the tank. ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 4:56pm
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Had new 3/4" bulkhead picked up for me. Should be ready to install when I get home. Just have to find some help to lift the tank off the block and sit it into the stand so I can finish plumbing it! ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 5:02pm
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Man I can't wait to see this thing set up =) I love 210s!
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Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 5:22pm
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Very cool. I can't wait to see it setup.
I put rock right on the glass bottom before I added sand. Then I saw people using eggcrate like this and thought I had made a mistake with the rock on the glass. But I just left it as it was working and it is still working. I guess the pressure points are not too bad.
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: March 08 2010 at 7:34pm
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The bottom is tempered glass (in most cases) There is really no need for the egg crate except wanting it. However having a stale area that the under sand water movement cant reach will cause some nasty areas to deal with in the future. If you ever need to move the rock you will release the stinky poisons into your water. I saw a awesome demonstration at MACNA that showed the way water moved under the sand, very neat. ------------- http://www.customaquariumfurniture.com" rel="nofollow - Bad "censored" Cabinets Best quality in the valley! He is one sexy bald guy, even with out a finger!(MAC) |
Posted By: Deluxe247
Date Posted: March 09 2010 at 3:20pm
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I agree with Dione and Madreefer. If you're going to have burrowing fish then just set the base rocks on the bottom before the sand. If you're really worried about the glass, I've heard of people laying down a sheet of starboard on the glass. It protects the glass without trapping sand and creating stagnant zones.
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Posted By: SmokeyBear
Date Posted: March 09 2010 at 3:49pm
Looks like you've got a 210 reptile tank for sale eh? Anyone looking to house a tegu? |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 18 2010 at 1:51am
So the mirrored film is installed on the back. I can tell that was a lot of fun!!!  The Jawfish condos are built and in the tank.  . Then tonight I started to fill it!!!!! . So far it has 50 gallons, a little sand and a few pieces of live rock in it for tonight. Only have 200 more gallons till the whole system in filled!  ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: CapnMorgan
Date Posted: March 18 2010 at 6:22am
It's all coming together  , I just need to build my sump and cut some holes in my stand and I'll be starting the cycle (I'll fill my tank with water even without the sump to get started faster). Let me know if you need any help!------------- Steve http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40637&PID=356246" rel="nofollow - My Old 180G Mixed Reef Currently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8 |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 10:42am
Well I spent most of the weekend sifting Utah sand for the tank which isn't much fun especially when it is still wet. So between the Utah sand and the sand I got with the first tank I now have about an inch across the bottom now. I'm looking at buying 100-150lbs more of sand in the next day or two. I also put the rock from one of my 30 gallon rubbermaid contains into the tank, still have two more. I then finished filling the tank last night and connecting all the plumbing. It has been kind of a slow process of filling the tank over the last week. So it is now up and running!!!!!
Then this afternoon I have a school of Firefish coming and a couple Blue Spot Jawfish. I will try and post some pictures this evening! ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 11:08am
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Then this afternoon I have a school of Firefish coming
I don't have a good feeling about that. You may want to rethink that move. Most likely (as in everyone I know) you'll be down to two firefish in a couple weeks.
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Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 11:12am
And then probably down to 1 after a few months. ------------- Next meeting: |
Adam Blundell wrote:Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 11:56am
Why territorial issues or jumping? ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 12:08pm
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Territorial.
A male/female pair could be housed together. But normally, firefish are mostly solitary in nature.
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Posted By: Tresa
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 12:48pm
| Are you putting the new fish in the 210? |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 1:51pm
Yes, half the water in the tank is from the original tank plus 100lbs of the sand and 100lbs of LR so far from the original tank. I still have 150-200lbs of LR to put in but the tank has been running since last Thursday I just put in the last 60 gallons last night to start it running through the sump. I had thought I might put them in my holding tanks for a few days but I think that would spark territorial battles. ------------- Quality Marines Aquaculturing & Captive Breeding program! Presented by Ashley & Chelsea from Reef On Thursday 6 Oct 2016 |
Posted By: Tresa
Date Posted: March 23 2010 at 1:56pm
| It says above that you still have 100-150 lbs of sand to put in.....if that is the case and considering how long the tank has been running...I would wait to put the fish in. The tank is not going to be stable and those are not the most forgiving fish... |
Posted By: arthuriv
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 2:50am
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Here are some new pictures. I still need to clean the glass some more from the sand dust so the pictures aren't the best! It is really cool when I feed all the Firefish swim around in a large school eating while the Blue Spot jawfish watch everything and tring to sneek out of hiding to eat!!
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Posted By: PhotoGlen
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 11:14am
It's fun watching,looking good  , if you need help just call. Glen.------------- I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. George Burns Now two 29 gal. Biocubes 90 gal. with a 40 gal. sump |