Reef'd Up's Project 150
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Topic: Reef'd Up's Project 150
Posted By: ReefdUp
Subject: Reef'd Up's Project 150
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 8:59am
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Well, I thought I had a build thread on here, but I can't find it. So, here's a new one. :) We built the stand and canopy back in 2009 in Ohio. It all came down in 2011 for our move to Utah. Unfortunately, the moving company banged the stand up a bit, and I lost most of my corals between the move and the 2011 windstorm. Anyway, here's the build...along with some "now" coral photos. :) Marineland 150g deep tank with Octopus Extreme 250 skimmer w/ soda can for reference  Me building an acrylic sump (~50g)  Stand build - making sure the sump fit correctly  Adding the trim  Adding the marble and big leaf maple burl shelf  |
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:03am
Staining: Cutout for the plumbing  Stand minus doors  Guitar strips for plugs  20A plug goes straight into the stand  |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:05am
Back in Ohio LumenMax 400W MH Fixtures  The canopy  More canopy  Fans and drawer light rack  |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:06am
Piano Hinge Piano Hinge from the "front"  Doors with marble inlay  Setup in Ohio  Plugged in  |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:10am
About 1000W of light More light  Fan detail  More fan detail  Sump detail 
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:12am
2 vent racks allow heat but not light through Piano Hinge  |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:16am
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In Ohio it was set up as a 2-sided tank. Here we have it set up as an island. Since we're military and can't predict our houses, we made it so it can be an island, peninsula, 2 or 1 sided. Now for the current inhabitants: Randi the Clam  My pride and joy: Acanthaphyllia  Hawkins  Emma's Jedi Mind Trick (still coloring up)  Rescue Scoly 
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:18am
Diablo Mille (coloring up) Undata  My setosa I'm bringing back from 2 polyps  Pink Lemonade (coloring up)  Rescue Acan 
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:20am
Rescue Favia (my other pride and joy) Blue Bottlebrush  Another rescue Scoly  Purple Pit Blasto (pics do not do this amazing thing justice)  Microclades  Strawberry Fields 
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:24am
Blueberry Fields Phil's Granulosa  Rescue Trachyphyllia 
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Posted By: Fatman
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:34am
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I get to see this tank a couple of times a week and it's amazing. When I get to occasionally tank set I have to be careful because i catch myself watching it for a long time and really should be working. Nice tank.
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Posted By: Jeremyw
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 9:44am
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Gorgeous tank! Great build! Love the 20A plug right in the stand! ------------- Next meeting: |
Posted By: Dionysus
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 10:34am
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I love the stand and canopy!
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 3:09pm
| Thank you!! |
Posted By: Trevor40
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 3:25pm
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Sweet build and corals!! ------------- Call or Text (801)834-3119 |
Posted By: Molli
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 3:27pm
| I love the coral you call "Rescue Favia". If you ever want to sell it please let me know! |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 3:37pm
Aw, thank you! I've taken two polyps off since 2007, and that was only to make a backup in case I ever lost the mother. So, I doubt I'll ever sell a piece, but I'll keep you in mind. :) Under more actinics:  How it looked when I got it back in 2007: 
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Molli wrote:Posted By: Teknik777
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 3:52pm
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Looks amazing and clean good work! ------------- 220 G SPS Display. |
Posted By: Mr.Gray
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 9:40pm
| I just bought the same tank and skimmer as you (just by chance, not trying to copy haha). But i'm hoping mine can end up as awesome as yours! |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 5:39am
| :) Awesome! I think you'll be happy with it. Gotta love the deep dimension tanks! |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 8:23am
| Wow-nice work on everything. It looks fantastic and I'll be happy if I have inhabitants looking half as happy one day. |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 8:32am
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Aw, thanks! Right after these photos were taken, I had a problem with some carbon/GFO. I must've added too much or something b/c everything bleached out (I added the same amount I always use, so I don't know). It's just now starting to come back, but I'm kicking myself since I lost several months of good growth time. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: DLindquist
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 9:57am
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Looks great Nikki. I guess it's a good thing we haven't swapped coral yet. So sorry about the carbon issues. We have been in a similar situation and it is heart breaking. We will be starting a job in Layton next week. I would love to swing by and see things in person.
By the way, isn't MH lighting a little archaic?  ------------- A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have. |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 11:26am
Yeah, everything is just about to the correct coloring, except the Red Robin I have for you. We'd love to have you over, just let me know when. MH isn't archaic for a 31" deep tank. Although, we are looking at switching over to the 100W Ecoxotic Cannons within the next year or so. They'll probably pay for themselves in the first 6 months! LOL------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 1:54pm
I thought I'd update the thread with some photos I took today...     ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 1:55pm
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 1:57pm
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 2:06pm
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 2:07pm
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 2:08pm
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Posted By: Ann_A
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 2:34pm
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Looking great! I'd love to come see it in person some time. ------------- http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53856&title=annes-65g-rsm-reef" rel="nofollow - RSM 250 Reef |
Posted By: lskurys
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 3:49pm
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You know some day we are going to need to see your tank in person. Every thing looks really good. ------------- 220g , large elite aquatics sump. 3 Radion Pro Gen 3 lights 3 Mp 40's |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 4:41pm
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Nice! Have a full tank shot? ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 4:58pm
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Ugh, I can't get a decent full tank shot bc of the lighting. 1000w just washes everything. :-( ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: February 18 2013 at 6:18pm
LOL I think that is my issue with my full tank shots, I'm not liking them because they look really washed out until I go in and correct them afterwards and then they still don't look as good as what it does in person:) ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: February 19 2013 at 2:02am
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Dang nice corals Nikki and looks like that red rim is going to work out =) |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 19 2013 at 4:23am
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Hehheh, yes, I think it is too! I'm quite happy. :-) ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: February 19 2013 at 6:54am
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Posted By: Nick801
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 1:18am
| Nikki I wish you guys lived closer would love to see this tank in person ! I love that stand |
Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 2:16am
| Nikki that is awsome!!!!! You gave so many great ideas I'm going to steal for me on my next build . I love the colors of your coral. Do you have any fish in this system ? |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 5:13am
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LOL...only a pair of leopard wrasses and a xenojulius. I'm not really a fish person. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 6:57pm
Eye candy from today...this was actually a rescue I picked up in February. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 7:04pm
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Wow those are gorgeous! ------------- Jackie Stuver "wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas? I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 8:46pm
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Beautiful! -------------  |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 3:09pm
Awesome! If you don't mind, where in the tank do you have this? ------------- @Home 300g System 150g-Cube Reef+60g Frag+WaterChange 150g Tall FOWLR RIP @Work RSM 130D w/LEDs txt anytime @ eightO1-seven5five-eighteen99 Scuba! PADI Pro DM/AI/TecDeep NSS/CDS-Full Cave Diver |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 3:14pm
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Hey Johnny! How's your piece of it looking? I have it about 25" down from the water surface (2 x 400W MH lights are 10" above that), and I have it tucked partially into a little cave area. It does not like light. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 4:34pm
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Thanks! have you seen much growth? mine seems happy in a similar place but not much growth.
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Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 4:46pm
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I've got about 5 new medium-sized ones already...I was really surprised, especially given its condition when I got it in Feb. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: June 17 2013 at 3:48pm
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gee, it's such a shocker that you get a dying frag of a coral and it grows better than the healthy one i have...bah! silly corals. :) ------------- @Home 300g System 150g-Cube Reef+60g Frag+WaterChange 150g Tall FOWLR RIP @Work RSM 130D w/LEDs txt anytime @ eightO1-seven5five-eighteen99 Scuba! PADI Pro DM/AI/TecDeep NSS/CDS-Full Cave Diver |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: June 17 2013 at 4:42pm
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Magic! Saying that...the corals I got that were dying originally almost always do better than the ones I just buy healthy. Hmm...more attention = healthier coral...imagine that! LOL ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 12:21am
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For those of you who don't know, my tank has been less-than-ideal the last 6 months. My skimmer broke several times, my lights died, my Apex went out, and my dosing pump went on the fritz. Growth and colors aren't great, but here are some updated pics. Updated actinic shot (the entire underside is covered in babies):  My favorite SPS:    ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 6:43am
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BEAUTIFUL! ------------- |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 7:41am
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Mike, I was so sad I missed the first part of your workshop! I only caught the trail end. I could use some photography help. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 8:55am
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I'm sorry you were unable to catch it all. Let me know how I can help.
(I think Adam has me scheduled to present at one of the meetings early next year but it hasn't been announced yet so don't tell anyone.) ------------- |
Posted By: ksmart
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 1:49pm
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Wow the color is incredible! ------------- |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:27pm
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I'm finally starting to recover from all the disasters (skimmer dying, lights dying, Apex dying, dosing pump dying, etc.) This is why you don't buy all of your equipment new at once... Anyway, I took some photos before the new LED lights went on. Those pictures are still to come. [<:o)]            ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:39pm
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Those are beautiful Nikki! ------------- |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:40pm
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Mike, the 5th photo down is the most crazy bright green Acro ever, but I can't seem to capture the color. Is there anything you'd recommend trying? ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: fishnfresh
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:56pm
| Hey NIkki what is that 4th pic down? |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 3:58pm
Ah, just the Tyree Sunset Montipora (courtesy of Jared Butler). ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:05pm
Beautiful acros. They all look really happy. I'll take one of each.  ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:08pm
D'aww, thanks! You probably already have one of each...10x as big!  (I am noticing that I always post photos of the same corals...need the others to grow out...) ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: love2skiutah
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:17pm
| Absolutely beautiful Nikki. LOVE those acros. |
Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:19pm
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Your polyp extension is 10 times that of mine, but I have these little pesky angels that think polyp extension is a treat. ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:27pm
Ohhh, but they're such beauties! That's a toss-up on which I'd rather have. I'm still toying with the idea of a Regal, but we'll see. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:35pm
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I would go for it. You will never regret it . They are such gorgeous fish. The only problem you will have is that you will want more.  ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:43pm
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ARRRRGHHHH...such a beauty!! How's the temperament? Any nipping? I keep seeing gray bellied ones up for sale, but I definitely want a yellow. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: tileman
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 4:47pm
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Yea hold out for a yellow. She is quite shy when others are around. I have never seen her nip at my acros, but I have seen her nip at my gorgonia . I wouldn't have a reef without one now. I've had a regal angel in my tanks for ten years now. ------------- 335G Reef TOTM. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2015/2/aquarium ReefKeepers TOTM Feb. 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index....k-of-the-month & |
Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 5:17pm
First I would use a custom white balance, pumps turned off, and no flash. Second I would shoot in raw format and adjust in post processing. ------------- |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 24 2013 at 6:59pm
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Thanks Mike. I'll work on the white balance. I've never post-processed anything, but I do have Photoshop (and my P&S camera will shoot in RAW). I'll start practicing. Here's a teaser on the new lights. Ignore all the wires...it's a lot cleaner than how it looks there...  ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: phys
Date Posted: November 25 2013 at 1:37am
| Dang Nikki! I need to stop by sometime! |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: November 25 2013 at 1:18pm
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Woah! Nice polyp extension! Seems I'm doing it wrong :) ------------- @Home 300g System 150g-Cube Reef+60g Frag+WaterChange 150g Tall FOWLR RIP @Work RSM 130D w/LEDs txt anytime @ eightO1-seven5five-eighteen99 Scuba! PADI Pro DM/AI/TecDeep NSS/CDS-Full Cave Diver |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 25 2013 at 1:24pm
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You should see the polyp extension at night!! I have a couple acros that extend polyps up to 1/2". I'll try to get some night shots up. I still don't know the secret to good sps PE. Sometimes it's great...or nonexistent other times. I haven't found a reliable cause... ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: November 25 2013 at 1:37pm
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Great. I thought those were at night ------------- @Home 300g System 150g-Cube Reef+60g Frag+WaterChange 150g Tall FOWLR RIP @Work RSM 130D w/LEDs txt anytime @ eightO1-seven5five-eighteen99 Scuba! PADI Pro DM/AI/TecDeep NSS/CDS-Full Cave Diver |
Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: November 25 2013 at 1:48pm
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Nikki, Whats the third to last one in your pictures? Echinata of some kind? Maybe Pearlberry? White tubular structure with blue/purple tips. I can't believe how long you have made us wait for this lighting update. ------------- My ocean. 90g (yup, won it!), 40g, 28g, & 10g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63568&title=krazies-nano-paradise" rel="nofollow - Tank Thread: |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 26 2013 at 5:14pm
The Acro was sold to me as the ORA Hawkins Echinata. I'm pretty confident in the source, but it does look slightly different. Ugh, my paper is over 80 pages long, and I'm nowhere near done. You'd never believe how much work has gone into the LEDs. I promise, it'll be worth it. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: JohnnyHeavens
Date Posted: November 26 2013 at 5:22pm
Seriously. No pics and update, it didn't happen:) ------------- @Home 300g System 150g-Cube Reef+60g Frag+WaterChange 150g Tall FOWLR RIP @Work RSM 130D w/LEDs txt anytime @ eightO1-seven5five-eighteen99 Scuba! PADI Pro DM/AI/TecDeep NSS/CDS-Full Cave Diver |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: November 26 2013 at 5:42pm
Fine, fine, fine...here are some really horrid shots with terrible white balance... It's not done. I'm still adjusting things....  ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |
Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: December 06 2013 at 8:20pm
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So Nikki I was doing some research and I have now convinced myself that the Echinata that Nick, Thu and myself have is the Hawkins and that yours is an Ice Fire Echinata. Could that be the case? ------------- My ocean. 90g (yup, won it!), 40g, 28g, & 10g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63568&title=krazies-nano-paradise" rel="nofollow - Tank Thread: |
Posted By: ReefdUp
Date Posted: December 07 2013 at 8:08am
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Nope, nope, nope. I have the Tyree Icefire Echinata...they're totally different. I swear it's the Hawkins...looks like every other one I've seen. I'll double check with the previous owner if he's still around. ------------- www.reefdup.com Diving since 2009, reefkeeping since 2007, & fishkeeping since 1987 200g, 75g, & 15g Systems PADI Advanced Open Water |