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Topic: 180 Gallon In Wall Tank
Posted By: knowen87
Subject: 180 Gallon In Wall Tank
Date Posted: March 23 2017 at 11:06pm

Right now, I live in a small house near the Utah Idaho border. It is only 384sf or about 12ftx32ft but I have a 150 gallon in wall tank. We moved in to the home to save money and pay off debt but it is time to move. We just don’t have any room left with two girls my wife and I and our 2 100lb dogs. In February we bought a house closer to town it is 8 times larger than our current home and we found a place that can support a fish room! I like the size of my 150 gallon but I wanted to go with a glass tank. I didn’t want to go down to a 4ft tank so I decided to go to a 180 gallon aquarium. I have it ordered and we are getting the house ready for the new tank.

I love the way that an in wall tank looks, I think that it is nice to have all of the equipment and mess behind the wall. I also think that this is why my wife is ok with such a large tank too. The fish room will be right off of the main living area. The room is 8.5ftx12ft and it also serves as my wife’s laundry room ( I guess we will see how that goes).

We are in the middle of construction right now but I have added a few pics to show how it is going.
Before we started


removing a wall



fish tank hole


before the drywall goes up



Drywall up and the first layer on.




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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: March 24 2017 at 9:13am
I drew up a plan for the fish room. I would like to have the sump like two feet off of the ground and to the side of the tank. this will give me the most access to work on and clean the sump. I dont like bending over under the tank and trying to work with the skimmer. I also want to have a qt/ species tank. Let me know what you think/ if you have any suggestions. What would you do if you had an 8.5ftx12ft fish room?

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Posted By: Scottyb
Date Posted: March 24 2017 at 2:44pm
Dang, that's going to be nice! Wish I could have that big of a fish room, lol.looks like a good layout to me


Posted By: shaggydoo
Date Posted: March 24 2017 at 4:44pm
I'm excited to see the finished product. Looks like a well thought out design.

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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: March 24 2017 at 10:55pm
I took some pictures of the stand. I currently have it only partially built. I needed to get part of it done so that the contractor could come in and start the drywall. The front part of the stand is supported with 2x4s sistered next to the wall joists. I should have taken a close up picture but I didnt. I think that I will do a support in the middle. Maybe I will offset it to the side a little bit to allow more room under the stand.  I also ran a dedicated line from the breaker panel for the tank. I put the outlets up on the wall and made sure that they were GFCI outlets too. 
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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: March 26 2017 at 8:33pm
I made and equipment list for the tank. I think that I got everything.
Equipment List:
-180 gallon Standard Tank
- (4) Kesil A160WE 
- (1) 48" 2 bulb T5
- SWC 180 Skimmer
- Jecod CP-40
- Jebao RW60
- Apex Jr
- Apex DOS for Auto water changes
- BRS Dosers  
- Tunze Osmilator ATO
- Mag 1200 return
- 40g Breeder sump
-BRS 5 stage RO, 2 media reactors

I have 10 fish right now. I am looking to get more for the new tank.  I think that I will add another firefish. It is funny that they are some of the cheapest fish but I get a ton of comments about them. I think that i might want a wrasse or some anthias.
Livestock
- Hippo Tang
- Sailfin Tang
- Lamark Angel
- Yellow tang
- Flame Angelfish
- (2) Black Ice Snowflake Clowns
- 1 firefish
- chromis
- banggai cardinal
- lots red bubble tips (looking to thin them out a bit) 

What other fish do you guys like?


Posted By: Scottyb
Date Posted: March 27 2017 at 7:42pm
I loved my diamond goby, lots of character. I had a similar tang trio as you and loved them. I definitely want to add some anthias this time around. And if you still have an abundance of rbtas in a month or so, I would be interested in buying one from you :)


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: March 28 2017 at 8:21am
I like the goby idea. I like the idea of something that will turn over the sand. I have also contemplated a Goby pistol shrimp pair but I feel like they might get lost in such a big tank.


Posted By: kevin.st
Date Posted: March 28 2017 at 8:37am
I have a pistol shrimp/goby pair that I haven't seen in almost a year.  I hear the pistol shrimp several times a day, though.  


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: March 31 2017 at 10:55am
I got some time to work on the fish room last night. I made most of the stand for the qt and species tanks. They are 33 long and I think that they will be really cool. I will also be running a sink over to the work table. My wife says that if I have a fish room I need to have a fish sink too. It is a small bar sink but it should be perfect for cleaning out the skimmer cup. This weekend will be a big one for the tank. I got the tank, now I just need to drill it. Then it can go into the stand. I am hoping to move the tank over in two weeks. 

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Posted By: VdubReefer
Date Posted: April 06 2017 at 11:02am
Nice !! This sounds like an awesome build !!! Keep up the pictures !!!

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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 06 2017 at 11:09am
I got the tank in last weekend. I had to drill 3 holes in the back of it which made me very nervous ( to the point that I did not sleep well the night before). I also got the species/qt stand painted and the sink in and hooked up to the plumbing. I also got the plumbing started for the overflow. The drains are all 1 1/4" they will go down to the stand level and connect into a 1 1/2" manifold. It is a process but it is coming along nicely

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I think that I got the bean animal overflow set up right. Durso top, Herbie in the midddle, and emergency at the bottom of the picture
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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 06 2017 at 11:18am
Thanks VdubReefer. It can be hard to remember to take pictures sometimes but it makes for a good build thread that is for sure.



Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 11 2017 at 1:33pm
I added the braces last weekend under the tank. It was pretty minor stuff. It is perfect because the tank sits right above a room full of storage racks so it was easy to do. I did add a beam to support one joists because it will be holding one leg of the stand, the sump and the 70g water storage tank. I checked it in the software at work and it said it would be at 85% capacity without the beam so I just added a (2)2x6 beam for good measure.

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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 11 2017 at 1:44pm
With the braces done, I also finished the stand for the 40g breeder sump and the plumbing for the tank. It was time to add water to the tank. This is always the most stressful time for me. I never get a good nights sleep right after I fill up a tank. especially a large tank. the whole time it was filling up I would keep checking everything. "Is it still level", "how is the stand", "how is the silicone holding up". Everything went perfect. The stand was perfect. The tank was perfect. There were no leaks. 
 
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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 18 2017 at 9:22am
I got a light rack put together. I made it out of some aluminum c channel. I made it so that it can be moved up out of the way if I need it to. The kessils are not very big though, so I dont think that I will need to have them  move very often. In order to make sure that there was never too hard of an impact while moving the lights, i also added some 2lb springs to the wall attachment. It works great. 

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I also got all of the lights hooked together. Hopefully a physical connection will be better than the AI Director that I have been using for my old lights. I like how simple the kessils are





Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 1:24pm
I filled up the tank with ro water and salt. It is very close to being ready for the fish. I hope the move will go ok. On a side note. Our previous house had a well with very hard water. The TDS of the water was like 16 after the RO membrane. We also had (after some disscusion with BRS) what appeared to be CO2 in the water. I would go through 1 can of DI resin in 60 gal or less of treated water. I am happy to report that my water at this new house has a TDS of 1-2 after the RO membrane and I have filled up almost 300 gallons of tanks and I have barely used any DI resin. I guess that means more money for everything else.

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Posted By: Scottyb
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 5:59pm
So you have 1 to 2 tds going into your fish tank? How old are the filters? I've always had 0 coming out and when it starts reading1 or 2 then I look into getting new filters...maybe just me being paranoid, lol
Looking good though, can't wait to see it with fish!


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 6:16pm
The tds between the ro and the di resin is 2. It is 0 coming out of the di resin. I was just saying that im glad that i no longer go through 15 bucks worth of resin to do 60 gallons of water.


Posted By: Scottyb
Date Posted: April 19 2017 at 6:20pm
Lol, ok I thought I was reading it wrong. That's great


Posted By: lovefishtank
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 5:13am
Great project! I'm following this.

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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 10:38am
Way cool thread

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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 1:09pm
Looks good! Oh boy, a Cartwright engineer... Good, people can ask you if your floor can support tanks now!


Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 1:39pm
Is there a reason you didn't have your drain manifold run at the same height as the top of your sump instead of dropping below it and then going back up and over the top of the sump?

I'm just curious about it and wondering if you have any issues with it self starting after a power outage?


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Posted By: shaggydoo
Date Posted: April 22 2017 at 9:23pm
Keep the updates coming. Looking great!

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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 1:48pm
Krazie - I took it down lower so that it would not show through the glass on the back of the tank. I am still not sure what I will do for a background. I didn't want to put the sump a lot lower though. I built the sump stand to allow for an additional 40g breeder to fit below.
As far as self starting issues, I guess that I am not sure what you are talking about. When the power goes out the overflow box drains and water will just sit in in the drain until the return starts back up. There is no siphoning and it starts up just fine. My main concern is sediment buildup in the line. I will see how it goes. 
One nice thing is that I do get a lot of flow from the return. The total head height is only like 1.5ft-2ft so the flow rate substantially more than when the sump was under the tank.


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 2:06pm
Moved the fish tank this weekend. Life can be crazy. My little brother came to help and I am glad he did. We started about 1:00pm and had most things finished by 6:00. Things got a little crazy. I lost the Lamark Angel and a Chromis and my daughter decided to break her leg.  It was rough to say the least. I think that everything has calmed down but I am really going to miss the angel. RIP. Ill add some more info and pics in the next day or two

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She broke her leg crawling out of the crib both bones. ouch!


Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by knowen87 knowen87 wrote:

Krazie - I took it down lower so that it would not show through the glass on the back of the tank. I am still not sure what I will do for a background. I didn't want to put the sump a lot lower though. I built the sump stand to allow for an additional 40g breeder to fit below.
As far as self starting issues, I guess that I am not sure what you are talking about. When the power goes out the overflow box drains and water will just sit in in the drain until the return starts back up. There is no siphoning and it starts up just fine. My main concern is sediment buildup in the line. I will see how it goes. 
One nice thing is that I do get a lot of flow from the return. The total head height is only like 1.5ft-2ft so the flow rate substantially more than when the sump was under the tank.


Let me use your picture to try and explain what I meant.

So in order for the bean animal to work correctly (and silently) it has to be able to run a restricted airless siphon on the herbie, upto a full flow on the Durso and not draw air into the line from the emergency. When the return shuts off the siphon breaks on both of the siphon drains and fills the pipe with air down to the level of the water in the sump and then holds water in the pipe drain pipe at that level. See my edit of your picture below. (Red is water level with the return off, yellow is air in the pipe and blue is water left in the pipe).



So then when the the return starts back up the drain has the potential to become whats called air locked due to the air in the lines being trapped between the water in the pipe and the water entering the drains. That air does not want to got down the pipe so this standing water in the pipe creates resistance to the siphons starting by them self until the drain either burps the air back up the drains or is able to break the air up into smaller bits and force it down the pipe and out the sump end. Most drain pipes in this drain setup will completely drain of water during the shutdown to prevent this airlock condition from happening.

It sounds like somehow you have not experienced an airlock yet but I just saw that there was the potential for it to happen in this setup.

A second question I have after thinking this through is in your setup where all three drains go into a single manifold do you experience any noise from air being sucked from your emergency drain into the manifold and then creating bubbles or gurgling at the sump? Because this drain setup is supposed to work based off of siphon it would seam that your emergency drain is a "hole in the side of the straw" and would be introducing air into what is supposed to be a "sealed" siphon.

Sorry about all the questions. Just stuff that popped into my head as I looked at your pictures and read your write up. Thanks for answering and sorry to hear about your daughters leg. I hope she heals up well. Krazie




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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 8:26pm
Krazie, I think that I am understanding the bean animal differently. The way I understand it is that the herbie is the full siphon that is restricted to just less than the amount of water that you want flow down the overflow. The Durso takes the remaining (small) amount of water that remains as well as variations in flow. To my understanding the durso never takes a full siphon because it has a hole in the top to prevent this. As far as the emergency overflow being like a hole in a straw I am not sure this will happen because the water level will always separate the different overflows because the water level never goes below the output drain into the sump.  If I am still not understanding this right please point me to an article that you feel can explain it some more. Thanks. 
The more that I think about it though I am pretty sure that I want to run the emergency drain as a separate line. I might be redoing the drains.Cry
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 8:54pm
That cast! Whoa!

Adam

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Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 24 2017 at 9:12pm
So to tell you all a little more about the move. I was able to get everything in one load. I only had a few corals and the anemones to worry about so that made moving the rock easy. The fish were easily caught and we headed to the new house. When we got to the house i put all of the fish in the 2 quarantine tanks. The clownfish and the smaller fish went in the upper and all of the others went in the lower. I quickly got the rock into the tank. I connected the apex, set up the protein skimmer and got the return pump going. Everything went fine until we had to go. After everything was said and done the aquarium was the last thing I was worried about. The tank was running, the fish were in the quarantine tanks everything would be ok until I came back the first thing in the morning. I was wrong I think that there was not enough oxygen in the water. When I showed up the next day the Lamark was long gone and the yellow tang was gasping on his side. I quickly threw all of the large fish into the main display except for the yellow tang. I did't want him dying under the rocks so I threw him in the sump. The hippo and sailfin we almost imediatly better and the yellow tang was getting better until he got too close to the return pump ( I think). I got the yellow tang back into the tank with the clowns and did an 80% water change. I think that the main culprit of the Lamarks death was the fact that circulation pump in the lower quarantine tank was not working right (that's why I think the oxygen was too low). Everything is fine now but it was hardly the best tank move I have ever done. 

Here is the tank right now. I will work on aquascaping more once things settle down a little more. 
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Here is the back of the tank. Chords are a mess but I will work on that later.
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Here is the quarantine tank. I am planning on trying my hand at raising clownfish. That is why they are in there. 
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Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 7:37am
Originally posted by knowen87 knowen87 wrote:

Krazie, I think that I am understanding the bean animal differently. The way I understand it is that the herbie....
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I had siphon on the brain while typing. I updated my post with the correct words to avoid confusion from readers. We are of the same understanding on the drain setup. Any chance you could do a youtube video looking down into the overflow box while the return pump comes back on? One of the drain outlet pipe in the sump while it's running would help as well.

The reason that I believe your emergency drain may be allowing air into the drain is because while running the water level in the sump is just above the horizontal run of drain pipe. This means that the larger manifold pipe will attempt to be a siphon but because the durso and emergency drains allow air in the siphon in the manifold is broken at that point and just becomes gravity fed. You might be right about what is making this entire scenario work and that is the running level in the sump being slightly above the horizontal portion of the drain.

The only actual siphon portion in your design is from the Herbie input at the overflow box to the T where that line hits the manifold. Anything past there is gravity flow unless all three drains are covered in water completely and siphoning as well. This last condition is what I believe is happening during the return startup which creates a full siphon on all three drains (maybe a slight air leak on the durso vent) but once that siphon starts it almost immediately drains the overflow, manifold, the durso and emergency drains and then draws air into the manifold and breaks the siphon for everything but the Herbie. Does that sound like what you see during start up?

I'm just going through scenarios here as I have bad experiences with drains not working correctly so i probably over think them now. If you want to move on just say the word. I'm just trying to verify my understanding, get enough info to understand why this setup works and where it may fail based on the original design concepts of the drain style being used, and hopefully learn a bit more in the process.


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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 12:21pm
Great thread!  Keep the info coming ....


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 12:57pm
I will make a video in the next few days Krazie.  I knew that having the sump at a similar level to the tank was not typical when I started this build. I will show a couple of scenarios as well (pump start and stop, plugged overflow. 

I also got the auto water change system set up and I think that I will do a little video of that as well.


Posted By: Krazie4Acans
Date Posted: April 25 2017 at 1:24pm
That would be awesome. I'm working on one of those for my system as well. It would be great to see what you ended up doing.


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http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63568&title=krazies-nano-paradise" rel="nofollow - Tank Thread:


Posted By: VdubReefer
Date Posted: April 27 2017 at 11:00am
Originally posted by knowen87 knowen87 wrote:

Krazie, I think that I am understanding the bean animal differently. The way I understand it is that the herbie is the full siphon that is restricted to just less than the amount of water that you want flow down the overflow. The Durso takes the remaining (small) amount of water that remains as well as variations in flow. To my understanding the durso never takes a full siphon because it has a hole in the top to prevent this. As far as the emergency overflow being like a hole in a straw I am not sure this will happen because the water level will always separate the different overflows because the water level never goes below the output drain into the sump.  If I am still not understanding this right please point me to an article that you feel can explain it some more. Thanks. 
The more that I think about it though I am pretty sure that I want to run the emergency drain as a separate line. I might be redoing the drains.Cry
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I might consider making them all separate ,, here is the article I read to get my understanding of the bean animal style overflow,,
http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx

, the primary is the One that is adjustable that is meant to be full siphon you adjust the flow through it with a valve.the second pipe is for extra waterleft over from the first in normal operation , in the case of an emergency if the first one gets clogged this second one turns full siphon once that hole is the top becomes submerged in water i.e. Loss of air ,to help carry the flow with the emergency drain, I think you might have a bit more piece of mind if you cut out that manifold and plumb each drain pipe individually that way if a fat snail gets sucked up one and makes it down to the horizontal section and passed the last tee and decides to get stuck on a mound of detritus he doesn't block off all three of your overflows completely
Hope this helps ! Correct me If I'm wrong Acan,,Your system is coming alone awesome !! Sorry about your daughter and your angel ,, here's a funny meme I found about herbie overflows

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"He who is one with the sea"


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: June 13 2017 at 1:32pm
It has been a little while but here is a quick update. I was able to get some aquascaping done. The style is similar to my last tank. I has one main island on one side of the tank and an open cave network on the other.  I think that I want to get some more rock  but we will see. 

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Here is the Cave Network
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Here is the island


Here is my favorite view. It is the side of the tank just as you walk in the fish room.
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Clownfish Tank
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Everything is a process right now. The tank has looked better and I am struggling a little with the cyano. I am changing out 6 gallons a day to make sure that the water is as good as possible and to help some new fish in the quarantine. 


Posted By: shaggydoo
Date Posted: June 13 2017 at 3:08pm
I like the rockwork. Lots of places for the fish to swim around in between all the rocks. Very nice!

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60g LPS Cube


Posted By: bstuver
Date Posted: June 13 2017 at 5:11pm
Its looking good! Those anemones are huge!

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Jackie Stuver

"wait these aren't the happy Hawaiians oompa doompa godly heaven on your face zoas?   I dont want them then. lol!" Ksmart


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 2:11pm
The other day I just noticed that my main island on the right side of my tank looks like a man striking a pose. I thought it was pretty cool when I realized it.
https://flic.kr/p/WZcx9s" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/WZcx9s" rel="nofollow - Man by https://www.flickr.com/photos/153638193@N07/" rel="nofollow - Nate Owen , on Flickr
P.S. Sorry about loosing all of my pictures. Looks like Photobucket gave all the free users the middle finger. 


Posted By: Hogie
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 2:24pm
Lol, yes it does!


Posted By: knowen87
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 3:41pm
Whew... done. It only took me 2 hours but I fixed almost all of the links for the photos. My wife says she thinks that the island rock looks like Maui flexing his muscles. 


Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 4:23pm
Awesome build thread.

The tank looks great - and the flexing man is a cool add!



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