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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Yes, but you only need to do this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> June&nbsp;01&nbsp;2004 at 7:22am<br /><br />Yes, but you only need to do this twice. Once before and once after the RDP Refugium is running with algae.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Mark, Have you heard or seen...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=272">rstruhs</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;31&nbsp;2004 at 8:30am<br /><br /><P>Mark,</P><P>Have you heard or seen a pH meter that has a recording function?&nbsp; That would work great for those of us that are kind of forgetful or do not want to get up early or stay up late to check our tanks pH.&nbsp; Maybe something for the club to get?</P><P>Rodney</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2004 08:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Kull, I have a really cool sump/refugia...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23">Marcus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;30&nbsp;2004 at 10:21pm<br /><br />Kull, I have a really cool sump/refugia that would work for your tank.&nbsp; Complete with a skimmer.&nbsp; Its a ten gallon tank with a 4 gallon partition for a refugia.&nbsp; Let me know if you are interested...]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2004 22:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : first thing is i have to get up...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;30&nbsp;2004 at 9:03am<br /><br /><P>first thing is i have to get up that early and have my&nbsp; brain working properly to take a test!!!!!!</P><P>i just bought a hang on refugium yesterday so i won't get it until next friday.</P><P>do you know of anyone who has made rocks usin ooclite sand? i wonder if there would be an advantage to it?</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2004 09:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Aragonite/Calcium Carbonate, of...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;30&nbsp;2004 at 8:11am<br /><br />Aragonite/Calcium Carbonate, of any size you like. (I have some Lake Bonnevile Oolitic left that I'll give you for free. Don't let it's price fool you. It's fantastic substrate.)<br /><br />What is your pH swing from 5PM to 5AM?<br /><br /><strong>Every kind</strong> of macroalgae and microalgae that will grow there. (Caulerpa, Chaetomorpha, Dictyota, Cyanobacteria, but try to stay away from hair algae.)<img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : what kind of sand do you use in...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">bugzme</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;29&nbsp;2004 at 2:40pm<br /><br /><P align=left>what kind of sand do you use in a refugium?</P><P align=left>i want to stabilize my ph and reduce nitrate----also what kind of plants?</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Sorry, Of course you are right...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;24&nbsp;2004 at 7:57pm<br /><br />Sorry, Of course you are right Carl. I guess what I meant was only that I like it better up top where I can see and enjoy it. <img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3389/reeftank/refugium.html " target="_blank">  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/3389/reeftank/refu gium.html </a><br />There's the clickable link. Thanks Jim.<br /><br />IMO, don't bother with mud. Below is what Miracle Mud looks like up close. It's mostly silica sand which gives no benefit. Aragonite substrate, whether Oolitic sand or crushed coral is best.<br /><br /><img src="../forum/uploads/MarkPeters&#111;n/2004-03-25_121011_miracle_mud_microimage.jpg" border="0"><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? :   Mark Peterson wrote:LR is okay...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=240">Carl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;24&nbsp;2004 at 7:39pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" alt="Originally posted by Mark Peterson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Mark Peterson wrote:</strong><br /><br />LR is okay but not as useful in the refugia as it is in the main tank where it's beauty can be seen.</td></tr></table>&nbsp; <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">&nbsp; Uummmm... can I just say disagree?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Of&nbsp;course I just can't say that. LR not as useful in the refugia? What the...? How about all of the surface area, cracks, crevices and such for bugs? What about all of the filter feeders that will proliferate in the LR and lend to removal of excess nutrients and organics? Heck, it's also that much more area for algae to grow upon. I think that LR in a 'fuge is a great addition. But, just IMO. <IMG src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : You win my award for the best...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;24&nbsp;2004 at 7:11pm<br /><br />You win my award for the best question of the day. I love refugia. Have you read my article in the June 2002 Sea Star Online?<br /><br />First off, I would caution you about using a refugium on a 10 gal at work. But if your employer is okay with it, then find a convenient, out of the way place for the tub and go for it <img border="0" src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />The thing to think about is not only how to safely get water down and back, but nightime lighting will be important for a tub that size connected to a 10 gal tank. If it isn't lighted at night, it may create a pH problem when it gets a mature growth of algae.<br /><br />I can email you an article regarding the principles of overflow safety to avoid floods and the article tells how to make a DIY overflow too. Just email me <a href="mailto:mrpslc@mstar.net" target="_blank">mrpslc@mstar.net</a><br /><br />The reasons for refugia are best accomplished with a DSB and lots of algae. LR is okay but not as useful in the refugia as it is in the main tank where it's beauty can be seen.<br /><br />Keep asking questions.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[refugium? : Reefobsessed: I&amp;#039;ll be over...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=280">Kull</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 2161<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March&nbsp;24&nbsp;2004 at 11:34am<br /><br /><P><SPAN =bold>Reefobsessed:</SPAN></P><P><SPAN =bold>I'll be over tonight to get the sea horse, I would like to take a look at you setup while I am there, and maybe grab some of that algae from you.</SPAN></P><P><SPAN =bold>Any thoughts on what type of sub straight to put in this? I have heard a lot of talk aobut using reef mud?&nbsp; Does a DSB work just as well or would I be better off going with the mud.&nbsp; I want to get the greatest benifit out of this that I can.</SPAN></P><P><SPAN =bold><EM><U></U></EM></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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