WMAS Discussion Forum : FLAT WORMS!!! http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 09 Jul 2026 23:42:15 +0000 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:05:39 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=42072 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : It&#039;s the increasingly stronger...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366830&title=flat-worms#366830 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 07 2010 at 9:05am

It's the increasingly stronger doses with an eventual "overdose" and using AC alone without having to do water changes that makes this method different and actually safer than following the manufacturers directions
I promote this method because of the horror stories of dead fish and coral that have occurred using FWExit according to their directions.

Levamisole may still be available from my friend and hobbyist BillyBob here on the MB. I have a packet of the powder that I am keeping on hand for emergencies.
]]> Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:05:39 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366830&title=flat-worms#366830 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : levamisole seems to be increasingly...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366776&title=flat-worms#366776 Author: snoyce
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 06 2010 at 5:26pm

levamisole seems to be increasingly hard to find these days, I got some Levamisole HCL powder from this guy, he is superfast to ship and the stuff worked great for me.

http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/ItemsForSale.html
 
follow the directions on reefcentral here to use
 
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1379099
 
For what its worth I agree with using a stronger dose rather than small doses, if you are prepared with fresh carbon and a waterchange the dying flatworms should not kill anything. I used FWE at smaller doses and full dose and they would just come back I could not get rid of them all, but hitting them with a full dose as recommended on reefcentral and then following up a few days later and a week later, totally eraticated them for me and I have not seen any for a month or so now.   If you read through the huge thread on RC you can get the actual levimsole up to a much stronger dose before it starts to effect any inhabitants if you control the toxins released by the dying flatworms.
 
I seemed to have millions of them, if it was a small outbreak just starting I would get on it and hit them hard with a good strong dose before the problem gets worse, Thats my opinion
]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:26:48 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366776&title=flat-worms#366776 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Mark Peterson wrote:Exactly,...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366765&title=flat-worms#366765 Author: Jake Pehrson
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 06 2010 at 4:16pm

Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Exactly, so that's why the last dose is a full dose or even 150% dose. Using Lavamisol instead of Flatworm Exit makes this more affordable, btw. Smile
 
Mark,
 
Where do you get your Levamisole?  Isn't it prescription only????
]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:16:37 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366765&title=flat-worms#366765 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : OK, recently I had a flatworm...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366721&title=flat-worms#366721 Author: Summertop
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 06 2010 at 11:18am

OK, recently I had a flatworm CRISIS!

I started my own thread, for various reasons, on what I did about it.  You can read it here: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42112&PID=366720#366720

NOTE: There is also a link to view some "After" pictures.


Edited by Summertop - July 06 2010 at 11:18am]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:18:17 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366721&title=flat-worms#366721 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Exactly, so that&#039;s why the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366711&title=flat-worms#366711 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 06 2010 at 10:10am

Exactly, so that's why the last dose is a full dose or even 150% dose. Using Lavamisol instead of Flatworm Exit makes this more affordable, btw. Smile]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:10:43 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366711&title=flat-worms#366711 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Mark Peterson wrote:Do you...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366624&title=flat-worms#366624 Author: downhill_biker
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 05 2010 at 6:33pm

Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Do you know this from experience or is it an assumption?
If it is true, that makes this method best when done quickly within a week, so that there are no offspring to develop a resistance.

The interesting thing about how we came across this method. Not quite half a dosage left in this 55 gal tank without AC or water change actually did in all those flatworms. We wondered if it made the flatworms unable to reproduce because after 2 weeks there were none.Smile


Well if you are killing 99%, or "all" of the flatworms with half dose, then why not do the full dose and make "Darn" sure you kill them all. Honestly the additional toxins of 1% or even 10% are not enough to justify not killing them all off the bat. I have never heard of anyone killing their tank, if they do it properly.
]]> Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:33:10 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366624&title=flat-worms#366624 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Do you know this from experience...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366617&title=flat-worms#366617 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 05 2010 at 5:39pm

Do you know this from experience or is it an assumption?
If it is true, that makes this method best when done quickly within a week, so that there are no offspring to develop a resistance.

The interesting thing about how we came across this method. Not quite half a dosage left in this 55 gal tank without AC or water change actually did in all those flatworms. We wondered if it made the flatworms unable to reproduce because after 2 weeks there were none.Smile]]> Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:39:30 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366617&title=flat-worms#366617 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Flatworms canbuild up a resistence...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366612&title=flat-worms#366612 Author: Bluespotjawfish
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 05 2010 at 4:43pm

Flatworms can build up a resistence to FWE when given at smaller doses.  ]]> Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:43:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366612&title=flat-worms#366612 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : A sixline wrasse. ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366603&title=flat-worms#366603 Author: Nano_Reefer
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 05 2010 at 1:07pm

A sixline wrasse.]]> Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:07:01 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366603&title=flat-worms#366603 <![CDATA[FLAT WORMS!!! : Faith, I went back and checked...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366593&title=flat-worms#366593 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 42072
Posted: July 05 2010 at 10:15am

Faith, I went back and checked all over those pics you sent. I cannot see any Flatworms.Confused How did you come to know you had them and the decision that you needed to get rid of them?]]> Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:15:55 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42072&PID=366593&title=flat-worms#366593