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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas :  You are probably done with this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3916">napalm77</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;23&nbsp;2012 at 5:22pm<br /><br />You are probably done with this project by now, but I thought I would chime in anyways. Regional supply... I am a huge fan of their scrap bin lol. We also used a 10 gallon tank for the sump to our frag tank. We have a pretty nice bubble trap that was made with acrylic. We have the sock and skimmer in the first compartment, rubble rock and a butt load of macro in the middle compartment, and the return with a bag of carbon in the third compartment. I think it works perfect, yes a little cramped, but it gets the job done and our tank is pretty happy.<div></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas : I&amp;#039;m glad it helped you ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3350">jason10012</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;12&nbsp;2012 at 7:56pm<br /><br />I'm glad it helped you&nbsp;<img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas :    jason10012 wrote:This site...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3935">cba191</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 9:29pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jason10012" alt="Originally posted by jason10012" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jason10012 wrote:</strong><br /><br />This site helped me when I was building my sump/refugium&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I've been loving that site.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas :     papa-squid wrote:...Ive...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4">Mark Peterson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 8:23pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by papa-squid" alt="Originally posted by papa-squid" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>papa-squid wrote:</strong><br /><br />...Ive seen the skimmer in middle and on the side but if its on the side how is that so efficient when it should hit the skimmer first? any suggestions?<br></td></tr></table> The skimmer works great where it cleans some of the water flowing past.<br>I haven't used a skimmer on most of my reef aquariums. There just isn't any real need.<br>I use a $6 plastic storage tub without baffles. A good growth of Chaetomorpha prevents bubbles from reaching the return pump, but if bubbles become a problem, a floss bag under the drain pipe is easy. The way I do it, there is a lot more room for a very useful sand bed and Macroalgae under an inexpensive $10 HD special light fixture. The powerhead return pump is placed in a tupperware container pushed down into the sand, keeping sand from entering the pump.<br>Let's see, I think I have a picture somewhere....this was the Refugium for a 120 gal system that made me $400 per month in SPS, LPS and Soft coral frag sales from 2005-2007.<br><img src="uploads/4/0501_02a.jpg" height="500" width="667" border="0" /><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mark Peterson - May&nbsp;11&nbsp;2012 at 5:14pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3350">jason10012</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 8:04pm<br /><br />This site helped me when I was building my sump/refugium&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas : yeah. I think Ive got an idea...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3944">papa-squid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 3:52pm<br /><br />yeah. I think Ive got an idea now .]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Looking for good sump/refugium ideas : Usually when i see the skimmer...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3534">1stupidpunk</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;10&nbsp;2012 at 7:33am<br /><br />Usually when i see the skimmer in the middle its becuase they have the incoming water go thru a filter sock to collect the larger particles, then the skimmer, then refuge (if used), then the return pump... but i could be mistaken]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 07:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3944">papa-squid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 10:29pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Elite-Aquatics" alt="Originally posted by Elite-Aquatics" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Elite-Aquatics wrote:</strong><br /><br />Make sure your acrylic baffles are not a tight fit, acrylic expands over time and will crack the glass tank. Leave about an 1/8" gap on both sides and use lots of silicone to hold it in place. Or an even better idea is to go get glass cut to your needs and it will look and hold up much better in the long run. Glass is very cheap.&nbsp;</td></tr></table><br><br>cool yeah i might just do glass inserts. (had no idea acrylic would expand) ive now seen a few examples and now really unsure what a good way to do it is. ive seen the skimmer in middle and on the side but if its on the side how is that so efficient when it should hit the skimmer first? any suggestions?<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3429">Elite-Aquatics</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 9:30pm<br /><br />Make sure your acrylic baffles are not a tight fit, acrylic expands over time and will crack the glass tank. Leave about an 1/8" gap on both sides and use lots of silicone to hold it in place. Or an even better idea is to go get glass cut to your needs and it will look and hold up much better in the long run. Glass is very cheap.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3944">papa-squid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 56348<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May&nbsp;09&nbsp;2012 at 9:06pm<br /><br />sweet thanks guys.<br><br>now I need a return pump and someone to help with some math? <img src="http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" /><br>]]>
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