http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Jul 2026 18:52:17 +0000 Sat, 18 May 2013 07:59:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=64420 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523523&title=radion-in-the-tank#523523 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 18 2013 at 7:59am

Oh Dave that is awful. In your first post you said that everything in the tank seemed okay. I feel awful for your loss.


You know what. This happens often enough that I think I'll start a thread and if it goes well, place it in the Reefkeeping Tips. I'm the son of an Engineer and have an engineering mindset so figuring out the best way to do things and finding the root cause to solve the problem is in my blood. I hope that you will add to that thread from what you learned here.

Again, my condolences for your loss.

Aloha,
Mark
]]> Sat, 18 May 2013 07:59:53 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523523&title=radion-in-the-tank#523523 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523510&title=radion-in-the-tank#523510 Author: nsfw dave
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 11:23pm

im just gonna take it one step at a time. a couple 40g water changes, watch my parameters before i put anything back in it, ugh... i was finally having success with chalices.. the light was easy to deal with, but just pulling out dead things sucks so bad. especially when you add it up. ]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 23:23:58 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523510&title=radion-in-the-tank#523510 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523490&title=radion-in-the-tank#523490 Author: wickedsnowman
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 8:09pm

I am sorry dude that really blows. I had a very similar thing happen a few years back. Mine was just my led moon lights though that fell into the tank. Killed nearly all my livestock. So I feel your pain.]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 20:09:27 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523490&title=radion-in-the-tank#523490 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523482&title=radion-in-the-tank#523482 Author: Ann_A
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 7:39pm

I'm so sorry!!!!!!!!!!

If there's anything any of us can do let us know! I'm sure we can help you get it going again. ]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 19:39:20 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523482&title=radion-in-the-tank#523482 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523479&title=radion-in-the-tank#523479 Author: nsfw dave
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 7:34pm

Nope... Everythings dead. A bit overwhelmed and disheartened at the moment]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 19:34:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523479&title=radion-in-the-tank#523479 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523417&title=radion-in-the-tank#523417 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 2:26pm

The Radion is dead, but the tank is okay, yeah?]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 14:26:49 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523417&title=radion-in-the-tank#523417 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523404&title=radion-in-the-tank#523404 Author: nsfw dave
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 1:08pm

... and everything's dead. :(]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 13:08:14 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523404&title=radion-in-the-tank#523404 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523368&title=radion-in-the-tank#523368 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 17 2013 at 2:50am

Aloha,

How unfortunate. I would suspect that even after just 5 minutes in the salt water any electrical circuit board is going to be a goner. Even after drying, the residual salt attracts moisture. Salt water makes an easy short circuit between contacts on a circuit board. I don't know if manufactured LED units use power supplies that are sealed like the power supplies for T5 and PC fluorescent light fixtures.

If this were mine, I would take it as far apart as possible and wipe off the saltwater 2 or 3 times with 2 or 3 separate damp cloths or paper towels to remove all the residual salt. Then I would set it out in direct sunlight for an afternoon to dry it before testing.
Testing would involve setting it on a nonflammable surface like concrete and plugging it in just far enough to make the connection, keeping my hand on the plug so I could quickly unplug it, if it started buzzing or hissing. That sound would indicate saltwater somewhere that I would then try to get to. If that didn't do it and it shorted out the power supply, I might consider replacing the power supply or junk it.

Mounting is critical. Please don't be offended if you already know this. I share it in the hopes that some reader may benefit.
If I can't find a wall stud to screw into I use Molly Bolts like described in this great article I just found where they tested wall anchors:
http://www.todayshomeowner.com/testing-wall-anchors-and-picture-hangers/
I can't recall ever having a Molly Bolt failure. I like them because they don't require as large a hole as Toggle Bolts so they are easy to paint or Spackle and paint over.

For really heavy loads or on drywall I don't trust to hold a Molly Bolt, I attach a nice 1x4 painted/stained board to the wall studs with grabber screws and then attach the item with shorter grabber screws.

Hope this helps someone.
Mahalo for reading,
Mark
]]> Fri, 17 May 2013 02:50:51 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523368&title=radion-in-the-tank#523368 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523354&title=radion-in-the-tank#523354 Author: fishnfresh
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 16 2013 at 8:57pm

This happened to me with my AI. use a dryer to dry it as much as you can. then take cotton and put in alcohol and wipe lightly around all the boards. Then put in rice I left mine in for like 2 days. pulled it out put it back together and it worked. but mine dropped in i was right there. so got it out fast.]]> Thu, 16 May 2013 20:57:15 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523354&title=radion-in-the-tank#523354 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523351&title=radion-in-the-tank#523351 Author: chuckfu
Subject: 64420
Posted: May 16 2013 at 8:01pm

Dont put anymore water on it. Water no matter how much causes corrosion. Call a local cell phone repai place and ask them about a water damage cleaning. They professionaly ultrasonic clean it and put a anti rust coating on all the electrical connections. Think about it this way, no mater how long you do the rice thing there will still be moisture in it even the slightest. It will continue to rust and corode everything. DONT TURN IT ON.

Edited by chuckfu - May 16 2013 at 8:03pm]]> Thu, 16 May 2013 20:01:53 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64420&PID=523351&title=radion-in-the-tank#523351