http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Jul 2026 01:16:25 +0000 Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:58:28 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=72314 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570838&title=fish-help#570838 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 27 2014 at 6:58pm

Freshwater dips and cleaners do little for marine ich since they embed so far into the skin. Dips and cleaners only get the ich at the surface, which isn't terribly helpful. If anything, the cleaners do more harm than good by continuously picking at an infected fish.]]> Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:58:28 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570838&title=fish-help#570838 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570833&title=fish-help#570833 Author: LakeCityReefs
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 27 2014 at 5:05pm

For what its worth my advice would be to just make sure the fish keep eating. I am convinced that 95% of marine systems have ich in them.

Here is my feeding regiment-
I thaw frozen food in tank water and then strain out the water through a small net, let the food drip off excess moisture for a minute or so, apply a few drops of garlic and a few drops of Selcon. Let soak for a minute.
When feeding the fish I try to add the food slowly. My thought process is that I want the fish to consume the additives before it's diluted away.


I feel that the fish can overcome ich naturally with a good immune system. If a fish stops eating it's immune system will plummet. Garlic entices fish to eat and the Selcon delivers much needed vitamins.
In addition to frozen Mysis I also feed the Angel mix and a gel type food called HPD.

If a fish stops eating I will take more aggressive action by removing for a freshwater dip.


Your fish is flashing off the rocks and opening it's mouth because it wants to be cleaned. Do you have any cleaners?

For the record, I am new to the hobby and yes I have lost several fish and a couple corals.
]]> Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:05:59 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570833&title=fish-help#570833 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570787&title=fish-help#570787 Author: 1stupidpunk
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 11:27pm

Sorry I got a bit mixed up I don't recommend Rid-Ich I actually use Kordon brand Ich Attack. It doesn't contain formalin or malachite green. I'm not saying it's a "cure" but it will kill off the vast majority of the parasite and your fishes natural defenses should be able to take over from there. ]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:27:34 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570787&title=fish-help#570787 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570785&title=fish-help#570785 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 11:16pm

There are no in-tank cures for marine ich (cryptocaryon irritans). Even 'Rid-Ich' is just a control.

As far as Rid-Ich goes, I highly question it as a product. I haven't used it, so I can't speak to the efficacy. But, I can speak to the design. It's a combination of formalin (formaldehyde) and malachite green - two of the most dangerous drugs in the hobby. Formalin is incredibly easy to overdose, and then it breaks down quickly enough to require multiple doses. There's no test for it, so you're likely to kill your fish with an overdose or with an underdose rather than the parasite. Malachite green is carcinogenic and is an immunosuppressant. Long story short, this product might help, but these aren't medications I'd recommend using in a reef tank...and it won't even cure the fish. ]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:16:28 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570785&title=fish-help#570785 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570780&title=fish-help#570780 Author: 1stupidpunk
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:47pm

If your not willing to remove the fish from the tank then i would recommend using Rid-Ich dosed as per the bottles instructions. I have personally used it on my reef tank with great success. Did not damage any corals (they did shrivel up in response to the treatment) or ornamental shrimps. Follow the directions and keep dosing even after you dont see white spots on fish. Ich life cycle come in stages and even though you may not see it the eggs/larvae will most likely still be in your tank for several days.... nikki could tell you the exact time frame (i believe its like 6 weeks)
]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:47:50 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570780&title=fish-help#570780 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570772&title=fish-help#570772 Author: Matt
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 8:33pm

I had a fish trap in there for over a week and neither fish ever went in. So short of draining my water I don't know how I would get them out.
]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:33:33 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570772&title=fish-help#570772 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570771&title=fish-help#570771 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 8:29pm

Sounds like a typical case of ich then. You can treat them outside the tank...or try to control the infection inside the tank. Depends how crazy you want to go. Obviously, QT treatment is a lot of work, but it actually works. You're gambling otherwise.]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:29:50 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570771&title=fish-help#570771 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570770&title=fish-help#570770 Author: Matt
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 8:08pm

No gasping. No wounds, no fraying, i don't notice a sheen. Black cap swims up to some fish and like yawns at them but that's it. Just crashing in to rocks and some white dots.
]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:08:07 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570770&title=fish-help#570770 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570769&title=fish-help#570769 Author: ReefdUp
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 8:05pm

Are they gasping? Any signs of open wounds, fins fraying, velvet sheen? Or do you see just a few white dots?]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:05:13 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570769&title=fish-help#570769 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570765&title=fish-help#570765 Author: Matt
Subject: 72314
Posted: July 26 2014 at 7:13pm

I had a few blue reef chromis die in my sump. I figured they did not have enough space between the macro and rocks I have in there. Today one died in my display. My midas blenny seemed to try and bite his tail a bit and rubs against some rock really fast and rub something off of his side. I barely see some white specs on his face and side fins. Now my black cap bass let is running in to rocks to rub something off as well. Any reccomendations would be welcome.]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:13:53 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72314&PID=570765&title=fish-help#570765