WMAS Discussion Forum : Need some help with new tank http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 24 Jul 2026 22:18:57 +0000 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:32:19 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.03 360 www.utahreefs.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=78732 <![CDATA[WMAS Discussion Forum]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/1by1.gif http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : Yep I run one of my nozzles with...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605995&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605995 Author: bstuver
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 12 2016 at 1:32pm

Yep I run one of my nozzles with just the jet piece, my other one is in a position that if I didn't use the fan I had a hole in my sand but I need the nozzle to be that direction because of how my rock and corals are:)]]> Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:32:19 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605995&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605995 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : Mark Peterson wrote:Jackie...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605984&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605984 Author: scfurse77
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 12 2016 at 11:49am

Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Jackie is correct. The physical engineering of moving water through pipes shows us that 1 inch piping is the most efficient for the volume of water flow of these aquariums. 1/2" pipe is extremely restrictive to water flow. Larger piping is especially important for the drain plumbing.

Also, the flat(fan) nozzles are counter-productive to flow. They actually disperse the flow, making it less effective. Their real advantage is in dispersing overly strong flow which, depending on nozzle positioning, might otherwise blow the sand around. Instead of the fan nozzle, I often simply remove the end jet nozzle piece.

I position return nozzles so they goose-neck down and back up, shooting water up along the surface to create a rippling effect. This more effectively oxygenates the water, also allowing CO2 to leave the water. More O2 in the water makes breathing easier for all the animals. Less CO2 in the water ensures good, elevated pH making the whole tank healthier.

Here's my last tip and then I'll shut up. Positioning the end of the return nozzle at the same elevation as the overflow teeth ensures that a siphon won't start which could flood the sump in the event of a power outage. Check the backflow of water by setting everything up and running, then turning off the return pump. Watch to see if the sump can hold all the water that drains down. If it looks like it's about to overflow, quickly turn on the return pump and then re-position the return nozzles. (Sometimes this means we have to run the sump with less water, at a lower level.)

Aloha,
Mark  Hug




This all great advice and i very much appreciate it. Thank you.
]]> Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:49:40 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605984&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605984 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : Jackie is correct. The physical...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605963&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605963 Author: Mark Peterson
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 12 2016 at 6:54am

Jackie is correct. The physical engineering of moving water through pipes shows us that 1 inch piping is the most efficient for the volume of water flow of these aquariums. 1/2" pipe is extremely restrictive to water flow. Larger piping is especially important for the drain plumbing.

Also, the flat(fan) nozzles are counter-productive to flow. They actually disperse the flow, making it less effective. Their real advantage is in dispersing overly strong flow which, depending on nozzle positioning, might otherwise blow the sand around. Instead of the fan nozzle, I often simply remove the end jet nozzle piece.

I position return nozzles so they goose-neck down and back up, shooting water up along the surface to create a rippling effect. This more effectively oxygenates the water, also allowing CO2 to leave the water. More O2 in the water makes breathing easier for all the animals. Less CO2 in the water ensures good, elevated pH making the whole tank healthier.

Here's my last tip and then I'll shut up. Positioning the end of the return nozzle at the same elevation as the overflow teeth ensures that a siphon won't start which could flood the sump in the event of a power outage. Check the backflow of water by setting everything up and running, then turning off the return pump. Watch to see if the sump can hold all the water that drains down. If it looks like it's about to overflow, quickly turn on the return pump and then re-position the return nozzles. (Sometimes this means we have to run the sump with less water, at a lower level.)

Aloha,
Mark  Hug


Edited by Mark Peterson - January 12 2016 at 7:28am]]> Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:54:31 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605963&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605963 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : DCT-8000 ]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605958&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605958 Author: bstuver
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 11:24pm

DCT-8000 ]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:24:59 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605958&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605958 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : bstuver wrote: scfurse77...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605957&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605957 Author: scfurse77
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 11:19pm

Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

Originally posted by scfurse77 scfurse77 wrote:

Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

Try upping the size of the tube you have coming from your pump when you get to the bulkhead use fitting to pipe it down to the size that fits the bulkhead and then run that the rest of the way up into the tank display. And honestly I would buy a better pump but that's just me:)


And your using the 8000 right? At full power? honestly i hate the idea of having to redo the plumbing again Disapprove. I'm guessing you went from 1/2 up to 3/4? 

We actually went up to 1" I'm running the pump at one below full but that's because I have a ton of coral in my tank and big colonies so you wouldn't need to run it that high unless you're really stocked like mine.

You have the 8000 or the 12000?
]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:19:54 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605957&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605957 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : scfurse77 wrote: bstuver...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605956&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605956 Author: bstuver
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 11:16pm

Originally posted by scfurse77 scfurse77 wrote:

Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

Try upping the size of the tube you have coming from your pump when you get to the bulkhead use fitting to pipe it down to the size that fits the bulkhead and then run that the rest of the way up into the tank display. And honestly I would buy a better pump but that's just me:)


And your using the 8000 right? At full power? honestly i hate the idea of having to redo the plumbing again Disapprove. I'm guessing you went from 1/2 up to 3/4? 

We actually went up to 1" I'm running the pump at one below full but that's because I have a ton of coral in my tank and big colonies so you wouldn't need to run it that high unless you're really stocked like mine.]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:16:32 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605956&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605956 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : bstuver wrote:Try upping the...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605954&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605954 Author: scfurse77
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 11:10pm

Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

Try upping the size of the tube you have coming from your pump when you get to the bulkhead use fitting to pipe it down to the size that fits the bulkhead and then run that the rest of the way up into the tank display. And honestly I would buy a better pump but that's just me:)

And your using the 8000 right? At full power? honestly i hate the idea of having to redo the plumbing again Disapprove. I'm guessing you went from 1/2 up to 3/4? 
]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:10:03 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605954&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605954 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : Try upping the size of the tube...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605952&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605952 Author: bstuver
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 10:53pm

Try upping the size of the tube you have coming from your pump when you get to the bulkhead use fitting to pipe it down to the size that fits the bulkhead and then run that the rest of the way up into the tank display. And honestly I would buy a better pump but that's just me:)]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:53:09 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605952&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605952 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : Fatman wrote:Lots of the stainless...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605949&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605949 Author: scfurse77
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 10:03pm

Originally posted by Fatman Fatman wrote:

Lots of the stainless steel clams actually have a carbon steel screw.
I already switched it to plastic one that i had laying around. thanks for the info. not something i would thought of until it was too late im sure. Thumbs Up]]> Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:03:27 +0000 http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605949&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605949 <![CDATA[Need some help with new tank : bstuver wrote:It was eBay I...]]> http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78732&PID=605946&title=need-some-help-with-new-tank#605946 Author: scfurse77
Subject: 78732
Posted: January 11 2016 at 10:01pm

Originally posted by bstuver bstuver wrote:

It was eBay I got mine off here's the link, you can get them with the flat nozzles on the end too just search eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-DUAL-NOZZLE-AQUARIUM-LOC-LINE-READY-FOR-AQUARIUM-USE-OR-SUMP-FREE-SHIP-/111720240637?hash=item1a030b95fd:g:CO0AAOSwPgxVOTDg

Ordered should be here next week. thanks!
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