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    Posted: August 31 2004 at 5:34pm

I've heard some people say that Brine Shrimp aren't very nutritious.  (Mostly articles and guest speakers.)

Does anyone know if live Mysis shrimp are more nutritious than live Brine shrimp?  If this is a ridiculous question, feel free to PM me and I'll just forget I mentioned it.  LOL

 

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Mysis are far, far, more nutritious.  No comparison.

But if you add something like Selco to your frozen/live brine... well then....

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But Suzy was saying that the Selco is so nutritious, that if they didn't eat it very quickly, it would boost bacteria in the water.  (I hope I paraphrased correctly, Suzy!)  

Also, I have added Selco to my frozen brine, and it just makes the water really cloudy.  I tried adding much less Selco.  Not sure that it's effective.  Trying to find a balance here.

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I soak my food in the Selco for ~15 mins. I enrich BBS with it, but it
does foul the water so it's a hassle. I just pour the water in, but if you
hate algae and cyano (bacteria!) then pour out the water after you
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OOPS! You said LIVE food! You can't soak live mysis, I don't think..
Sorry. OOPS.

The water gets bacteria in it and it clogs the gills or something and
the little guys die, unless you set a timer and just "enrich" them for a
few hours....

But, if they're alive, you can "gut load" 'em! Just feed 'em something
nutritious! Cyclopeeze, maybe!

Frozen dead shrimp can be "gut loaded" with Selcon, with a syringe!
You want to talk nutrition!

But, remember Selcon is a fat, which is needed in some proportion.
But, I can't help but thing too much can be just like too much for
humans! Clogs your arteries and goes straight to your butt!
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Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

Mysis are far, far, more nutritious.  No comparison.

But if you add something like Selco to your frozen/live brine... well then....

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Almost all frozen brine you buy is "enriched" (with something similar to selco).

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Brine shrimp being non-nutritious is so counter intuitive to me.  To me a brine shrimp looks just as nutritious as a mysis.  I wonder why it isn't...
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Doesn't it depend if the BS is harvested from a nutrient rich environment as opposed to just hatching the BS in basic RO/Salt water?  You are (BS) what you eat.
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Maybe the little buggers have a higher weight ratio of exoskeleton than Mysis. This is just a guess. I consider the GSL BS to be more nutritious though.
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Maybe the little buggers have a higher weight ratio of exoskeleton than Mysis

Then feed more .  I wonder if Fred's on to something.  Freshly hatched brine shrimp have no more (perhaps less) nutritional value then the eggs themselves.  Which probably don't contain all HUFA(ish) good stuff anyway.  But what if the brine shrimp are raised in nutrient rich water?  Why would they be then be less nutritious then mysis.  Maybe it's a biological difference between brine and mysis that's the culprit.

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I pulled this off of Hikari's website

 

Brine Shrimp Guaranteed Analysis:  

Crude Protein 6.8% Min.

Crude Fat 1.5% Min.

Crude Fiber 1.2% Max.

Moisture 86.0% Max.

Mysis Guaranteed Analysis:  

Crude Protein 10.5% Min.

Crude Fat 1.0% Min.

Crude Fiber 2.0% Max.

Moisture 85.0% Max.

Ingredients minus shrimp in both:  water, vitamin B12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized vitamin C), riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, choline chloride, folic acid, pantothenic acid, inositol, niacin

 

With the exception of protein they seem to be very similar

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Interesting comparison, thank you!!  I was hoping to harvest some BS from the GSL, but it doesn't seem to be happening.  I figured they would be nice & nutritious.  Plus the bonus of having them very fresh.  I figure that a company probably lets them sit for a long time before freezing them.  But I could be way out of bounds on that assumption.
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