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How do i get my cyano out break under control? I have a RedSea Max 130D! Please help!
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You will hear increase flow, feed less, cut lighting, excetera. However in my experience none of those things work. The only thing that's ever gotten rid of cyano for me is chemiclean.
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What are your parameters? Specifically phosphate and nitrate? What powerheads do you have? How old are your bulbs?
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I had an outbreak in my 38g recently. I did water changes about every 4 days for a couple weeks and got a diamond goby to move my sand,cyano was gone within a few days of the upped water changes and adding the fish... Not saying this is the solution for everyone but I dont like adding extra chemicals unless I absolutely have to.
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I've always had great results with Chemiclean. just make sure to do a 25% water change after using it for 48 hours.
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If you don't change enough of your water your skimmer will go nuts.
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I got mine under control by feeding less and adding reactors posban nitrate sponge carbon and chemipure bag I also power head my display tank
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I have never had to resort to using chemicals. Instead I work on the root cause.
See all the natural ways many local hobbyists have reduced and eliminated Cyano by clicking here: http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37106

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After battling a form of Cyano for almost six months, I also resulted to the use of Chemiclean. Almost 1.5 yrs later and my tank remains Cyano free. And the only thing I've changed since the originally outbreak is feeding my fish more food.
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Originally posted by DLindquist DLindquist wrote:

After battling a form of Cyano for almost six months, I also resulted to the use of Chemiclean. Almost 1.5 yrs later and my tank remains Cyano free. And the only thing I've changed since the originally outbreak is feeding my fish more food.


Same thing happened to me. Used it once haven't seen it since. It is also worth mentioning. My water params were near perfect. I had slight nitrates but nothing else. I also have never had a algae problem with this tank. I use rodi water and tried all the things mentioned in this thread. I even tried dosing mb7 and running a few different types of phosphate remover. This bacteria is a natural thing that is in every body of water. I think sometimes it gets a footing in our tanks and it doesn't have to do with anything done wrong.
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Good to know that Chemiclean worked like that in two separate tanks - changing my opinion of Chemiclean. Smile
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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

Good to know that Chemiclean worked like that in two separate tanks - changing my opinion of Chemiclean. Smile

I fought Cyano for 2 months.  I syphoned it out every other day, I did water changes, I cut back lighting, I increased flow and surface agitation and got rid of dry foods.  It was not getting better for me.  I used Chemiclean and 48 hours later, it was all gone.  I wish I had just given in and used it, but I was like you and was really hesitant on it.  I didn't lose a single fish or coral over it.  It's great stuff.  
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I have used it in several tanks and have had great luck with all of them. 
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I would not use any chemicals if I was you. When I had an outbreak I reduced my lights and did frequent small water changes, trying to suck out the cyano bacteria manly. It took time but it worked. Also I increased my water flow.
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We add chemicals to our tanks every day. Heck even water is a chemical its chemical make up is h20. Calcium is cac12. Alk mixture na2co3.
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LOL I add pounds of chemicals to my body every day and I love it. Thumbs Up

Originally posted by wickedsnowman wickedsnowman wrote:

I think sometimes it gets a footing in our tanks and it doesn't have to do with anything done wrong.
Agreed.
I'm wondering if Chemiclean has been re-formulated and improved over the years. 10-20 years ago we were afraid that it was killing a good percentage of the bacteria population in the biological filtration. Perhaps that's not the case anymore.

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Originally posted by jgutie38 jgutie38 wrote:

I would not use any chemicals if I was you. When I had an outbreak I reduced my lights and did frequent small water changes, trying to suck out the cyano bacteria manly. It took time but it worked. Also I increased my water flow.


Good luck. You'll find it hard maintaining a system without doing so. Alkalinity, calcium, magnesium.
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If all is well in your tank...low phosphates, low nitrates, good random flow, good light, etc, then I would recommend dosing bacteria. Over time, bacteria competes, and you end up with dominant strains. Often cyano is the dominant strain. Dosing new bacteria will help outcompete the cyano. Regularly adding fish and corals will do the same.

I would rather have bacteria competing than killing it myself. Who knows what else chemiclean harms.
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I agree with Nikki.
This thread has generated a pretty good discussion, but I just realized something! We failed to ask some of our typical questions to get background that will help us offer a tank specific solution. (May also address a problem waiting in the wings, such as other potential nuisance algae problems.)

So here they are:
How long has the tank been set up?
What is the filtration?
Alk and Ca numbers? (if known)
May we see a pic? (A pic really is worth a thousand words. Smile)

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