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    Posted: October 08 2012 at 10:45pm
Just wondering if anyone is using them now? Or have in the past? How did you like them? Would you use them now?
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I've used them and think they worked well, just don't have room for another reactor right now or I'd still be using them.
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I use them currently and love them! Takes a long time before you start seeing results. Having them in I've seen a huge reduction in algae on my glass and have seen an increased output with my skimmer by having it.

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Thanks for the help guys!
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I'm pretty sure the Devil created biopellets.    I say go for it and try it as long as like blinking and having your tank crash.
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Dont try it unless you have a crazy skimmer rated for double your water volume. In theory it works great and there is a ton of people that have done it successfully. However there is a ton of horror stories of tank crashes from this and all the other types of carbon dosing. I have dabbled with a few here and there but nothing long term. Come to think of I haven't seen alot of peeps go long term with it cause ethier they crash or have serious algae issues. IMO and experience there is only one way to get great growth and color from sps. Quality lights, random flow and rock steady params.
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one of the most common causes of pale and starved sps corals....I wouldn't use em, IMO.  
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Had them running a year and a half with great results.need a good skimmer and be pro active with your water conditions but they work great.
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I think ill just stick to vinegar dosing and not risk it. Thanks guys
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Originally posted by Dionysus Dionysus wrote:

I think ill just stick to vinegar dosing and not risk it. Thanks guys

Vinegar dosing can be a huge risk!
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Why are you considering vinegar or bio pellets?
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ditto...I wouldn't start messing with either of that stuff until you have several years under your belt....I'd suggest keeping things as simple as possible...oversized skimmer, GFO (if needed occasionally) or Macro algae....those should take care of any excess nutrients.


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I wouldn't choose either of those options. What exactly are you trying to accomplish and we will give you other options? To export nutrients I run my fuge light 24/7 three different types of macro, have a skimmer rated 2x plus my tank size, and filter sock. I also have a biodenitrater, and a reactor for both Gfo and carbon. I have never had any problems.
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I agree with the above posts.  Bio-pellets are a huge risk.  They do what they are supposed to, but make a system too fragile IMO.
 
If you are looking at biopellets to reduce algae growth I would look at other methods (refugium, more skimming).
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Ive been actually very successful vinegar dosing. I started to dose vinegar around five months ago to my tank. I started dosing to be able to feed more, get better color out of my sps and get rid of some hair algae that I had popping up. The hair algae did die and my sps got better color and I now feed everyday, not every other. I was just looking into bio pellets because my ato reservoir that I add vinegar too was getting weird stuff growing from the vinegar. But I seemed to solve that problem by adding a power head to keep the water mixing.
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I don't think I'd recommend using both vinegar and bio-bellets. jmo though.
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I'm using both and no problems, I'm just starting with vinegar and am proceeding very slowly.  I have a skimmer not big enough for my tank and I added the biopellets quite slowly.
I think they are both working toward the same end result.  My plan is to go away from the biopellets because Kalk+vinegar is cheaper.
It's funny I have a big biopellet reactor and am doing vinegar, my tank is a 210 with lots of tangs, the display is very clean(tangs eat anything in sight) the sump is full or hair algae and other macro, and I still get algae on the glass.  So even with all that I'm a bit under what would be needed to completely eliminate algae - probably will never happen.
I do attribute bio-pellets and gfo to allowing me to keep sps.
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Funny how something like carbon sources can result in such polarized opinions.  My .02 for what it's worth:

I haven't tried the biopellets, but I've done liquid carbon sources (homemade VGV, Korallen ZeoStart, and Red Sea NO3PO4X) and had good results, particularly with the ZeoStart.  If you have room for a huge refugium with a bunch of macro, then wonderful, but in small tanks without huge refugiums, there is just no practical way to be able to feed well and regularly and maintain good water quality.

IMHO people who have crashes related to carbon dosing have usually done one of three things wrong: either A) They have dosed too much to fast, B) They have tried to maintain 0ppm Nitrate and Phosphate, C) They have gotten lazy and kept dosing the same amount without doing weekly water tests to double check how things are going.  Increasing dosage if levels are rising, and decreasing it if they are falling lower than desired.  Carbon dosing artificially manipulates your biofilter.  It is not something to be taken lightly, and works fine if you pay attention and work slowly toward maintaining consistent low levels of nutrients.  Most crashes occur when people OD the tank and suddenly all the nutrients are gone.  The biofilter starves and dies, then the nutrients sky rocket.

That said, from what I have heard, people who hate biopellets have had exactly this problem.  They have tried to add too many too fast.  Most guidelines are around a cup per 50 gallons, and more is not better.  Personally I'd start with half that and see how it goes for a while.  People who have used the same amount of caution as they would with liquid carbon sources have been fine.  If I had room for a reactor I would love to try them.
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