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Posted: April 11 2012 at 5:35pm |
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My conch has buried himself for the past three days. Normally he's out and active. Any ideas as to why?
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Posted: April 11 2012 at 5:59pm |
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mine do that all the time
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Posted: April 11 2012 at 6:16pm |
Mine used to do that all the time too...but you could've just asked me in person...if you ever came over to see us anymore.  But noooo, you're just out buying aquarium stuff that *I* wantd. *Sniffle*
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Posted: April 11 2012 at 6:42pm |
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I just thought he was dying and being tidy about it.
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Posted: April 11 2012 at 7:24pm |
mine does that.. maybe just runs out of stuff on the surface?
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Posted: April 19 2012 at 4:25pm |
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Some times I don't see mine for months a time. But he is fine
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Posted: April 19 2012 at 4:41pm |
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Still can't find him. I was beginning to worry! Must be buried in the sand having a rest.
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 9:19pm |
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Any news? Mine's been hiding in the same spot with only one eyeball sticking out for almost 2 weeks now.
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 9:44pm |
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Aren't conch snails sand dwellers?
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Posted: April 30 2012 at 2:32pm |
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At first the snail may be actively out and about looking for food.
Eventually it learns the finite limits of it's home.
The time comes when it has cleaned the sand/has eaten everything in the sand that it cares for.
Then it just weakly waits for the end to come.
It will foray out from time to time to find new tiny morsels of food.
When the tank is taken down the empty shell is discovered.
This is the sad tale of many Conch Snails.
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 1:27am |
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Darn. We even named him. The kids will be devistated.
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 11:04am |
In some cases it has eaten it's fill and is resting until it needs to eat again. In other cases, there are two options to keeping it alive: - research what a Conch eats and provide it supplemental food, just like feeding the fish - remove the Conch and give it to someone with an older, larger reef aquarium that still has plenty of food in/on the sand. A major purpose of the WMAS is to " promote responsibility and education of the marine hobbyist". Please go to that link and read the entire mission statement. The best way to research your desired tank addition/change is by asking the responsible reefkeepers here in this forum.  That is what this responsible hobbyist recently did, " Conch or Cucumber?" 
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 11:40am |
I don't know, Mark... 
I have 3 Fighting Conches and 2 Cucumbers (A Yellow and a Tiger Tail) in my 93g and they don't appear to be on the verge of starvation
Conches are from the Fragstock # 1 in 2011 and so is 1 of the cukes... so about a year old now. 2nd cuke was just added last month...
The Conches do bury themselves, sometimes for several days, and then reappear.
My Cukes love to leave those little 'sand pellets' all over the place 
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 5:47pm |
And as I recall, you were feeding this tank a lot, per your own admission in your "Brown Sand Blues..." thread. It concerns me when a hobbyist buys something without knowing how to care for it or adds something intended to correct a problem they have no experience with. On the other hand, it's extremely pleasing to me to see what Shayne did recently in Conch or Cucumber?
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 6:31pm |
Mark, first off, I can assure you that Fatman asked a "responsible reefkeeper on this forum". I live next door to him and visit almost daily, and his tank should've been able to sustain a conch longer than this. I highly suggest you think before you assume everyone in this hobby is unethical and post about it. Fatman's tank is one of the best looking and healthiest tanks I've seen for someone as new as he is to the hobby. And...he is also more up-to-date with current technologies and care for creatures than many of the "experienced" reefers on this forum. It concerns me when a hobbyist assumes other hobbyists buy things without knowing how to care for them.  I had a mating pair of conchs in my 40g, which was about the same age as Fatman's tank when I added them. They regularly mated and lasted until we moved (several years...then died in the move when Delta lost our package). I rarely fed the tank as I only had a couple fish (and for 2 years...had no fish.) Somehow I doubt my situation was much different than Fatman's. I think I could be considered (debatable of course) as one of the more "responsible" reefkeepers here. I quarantine and treat all my corals, fish, and I have a hospital tank dedicated to saving unwanted/dying fish and corals from the local community. I also use a cleanup crew that regenerates itself (buying snails/crabs that will just die once their job is done is not responsible.) Again, please think about how your posts come across to everyone on this forum.
Edited by Reef'd Up - May 01 2012 at 6:39pm
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 9:23pm |
 Mark Peterson wrote:
And as I recall, you were feeding this tank a lot, per your own admission in your "Brown Sand Blues..." thread.
It concerns me when a hobbyist buys something without knowing how to care for it or adds something intended to correct a problem they have no experience with.
On the other hand, it's extremely pleasing to me to see what Shayne did recently in Conch or Cucumber?
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Interesting. By "your own admission", you've lost upwards of $2,000+ worth of livestock during your early years. Was this because you had no knowledge of the specimens required care, added something intended to correct a problem you had no experience with or because you had no one around named Mark to belittle you each time you didn't take his antiquated advice?
As I've said numerous times before, your way, my way, or even the Lords way is not the only way. (Although I tend to err on "His" side). Anyhow, I often wonder how many people set out to maintain a tank resembling some of the higher end systems like Brad's or Connies's and are led to believe a "poor mans wave maker" and an algae filled display will get them there. Please remember there are people that can, and I'm sure do, benefit from your advice. However, there are many others looking for the advice that quite frankly, you are not qualified for. Keep this in mind when you decide, yet again, to go off on one of your tirades.
Edited by DLindquist - May 02 2012 at 5:52am
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 9:36pm |
DLindquist wrote:
Mark Peterson wrote:
And as I recall, you were feeding this tank a lot, per your own admission in your "Brown Sand Blues..." thread.
It concerns me when a hobbyist buys something without knowing how to care for it or adds something intended to correct a problem they have no experience with.
On the other hand, it's extremely pleasing to me to see what Shayne did recently in Conch or Cucumber?
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Interesting. By "your own admission", you've lost upwards of $2,000+ worth of livestock during your early years. Was this because you had no knowledge of the specimens required care, added something intended to correct a problem you had no experience with or because you had no one around named Mark to belittle you each time you didn't take his antiquated advice?
As I've said numerous times before, your way, my way or even the Lords way is not the only way. (Although I tend to err on "His" side). Anyhow, I often wonder how many people set out to maintain a tank resembling some of the higher end systems like Brad's or Connie's and are led to believe a "poor mans wave maker" and an algae filled display will get them there. Please remember there are people that can, and I'm sure do, benefit from your advice. However, there are many others looking for the advice that quite frankly, you are not qualified for. Keep this in mind when you decide, yet again, to go off on one of your tirades.
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Ohh this is getting good I think I need some popcorn. I swear we have the exact same argument happen every few months. Lol.....
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 9:39pm |
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Wow really guys. I started about 8 months ago and have gotten great advice from mark. Idk why this thread needs to turn into everyone flaming him.. Even if you guys don't agree with his advice. No reason to go on rants about the man
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 9:58pm |
Christianwaisath wrote:
Wow really guys. I started about 8 months ago and have gotten great advice from mark. Idk why this thread needs to turn into everyone flaming him.. Even if you guys don't agree with his advice. No reason to go on rants about the man |
I decided I would rather not get into this...
Edited by bstuver - May 01 2012 at 10:04pm
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 9:59pm |
Fatman wrote:
Still can't find him. I was beginning to worry! Must be buried in the sand having a rest. |
He's hiding from Mark... 
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