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Topic: Turbo Snail Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:26pm |
Just a quick question Is the turbo snail and nassarius snail reef/coral safe, and of course the hermit crab. Total what is a good number to have for a 55 gallon tank?
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:34pm |
yes they are all reef safe and really the amount depends on how much algae and detritus your tank has. or produces..
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:37pm |
I think alot of people go overboard with inverts and they just end up starving to death.
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:38pm |
whats the best snail for clean the algea off the sand?
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:43pm |
IMO nassarius and conches.
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:45pm |
dont have much experience with nassarius but i know my fighting conch helped a lot with the hair algae i had a while back
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 6:33am |
Brown algae on the sand will go away in time. Yours is a new tank that is still adjusting to the new growth of the new biological filtration. Tell us what it has in it and we can help you determine what else it needs and how much. BTW, Nasarrius Snails don't eat algae. Don't bother with them right now. The best snails you can get are Cerith, Astrea and a few Margarita Snails.
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 7:57am |
Mark Peterson wrote:
BTW, Nasarrius Snails don't eat algae. Don't bother with them right now. The best snails you can get are Cerith, Astrea and a few Margarita Snails.
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i respectfully disagree although thier primary food source is detritus they do eat algae I see mine crusing the glass all the time. And they are awesome for keeping a sandbed clean.  Detritus on a white sand bed looks just as ugly as a diatom bloom.
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 8:29am |
Yes, you are right. Perhaps a few Nasarrius Snails could be useful but I would not add a Conch right now.
The cause of the problem determines the correct solution.  If I am correct, this is a new tank with relatively clean sand. That's why I asked what's in the tank. A pic would also be helpful. To answer the question of how many snails for a 55, I would add 20 snails, a mix of these three types: Astrea Cerith Margarita Later on, as the amount of LR and other animals increases, more snails will be needed. Depending on the lighting, a good rule of thumb is one snail per gallon and less than half as many Hermits. That rule changes as the tank changes over time.
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 10:18am |
Ill have to get a picture later as im about to leave for work, yes Mark as always you are correct  This is a new tank. Right now I have 2 soft coral frags 3 clowns, 2 turbo snails, 2 hermits, and 10 Nasarrius. The 2 coral I have (I think) only is a polyp and the other one I dont have a clue but its almost glows under the lights and look a lot like a feather duster you have about 5 little "feathers" that come out of each straw. Thanks for the help guys and this also leads me to my next question. I woke up this morning and found one of my corals upside down in the sand. Im guessing one of the turbos knocked it off the rock during the night how can I fix it. They are attached to a little cement disk. THANKS
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 8:17pm |
Superglue gel
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Posted: March 03 2011 at 10:51pm |
Do I pull a rock out of my tank and do it or just put the glue on the frag slate and hurry and dip it in the water, will it hurt the fish?
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Posted: March 03 2011 at 11:13pm |
it depends on the type of coral what is it?
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 12:15am |
Not really sure I know one is a Tubs Blue Zoanthids, I think the other one is a Zoanthid or a polyip. then I have one that looks like grass but they also act like feather dusters, and one piece of hard coral
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 12:15am |
and some clowns
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 12:22am |
Super glue gel is reef safe but it has to be the gel kind. just take a dab put it on the rock where you want the coral. You can do this under water. Then take the coral out and put a dab on it. Then connect the super glue. Twist it a little so the two mix and thats it.
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 9:37am |
It's nicer to place bare frags on rocks than to have fake looking plugs/discs glued all over the rock structure. Zoanthids can be removed from the plug and glued directly to the rock. They can also be glued to a small or large piece of LBTR/Utah Rock which then goes into the tank and looks like LR.
Utah Rock which has recently gone into a tank, can be removed to do the gluing. It doesn't really hurt much to remove it for a few minutes. After placing it back in the water, turn it around a bit to release air bubbles.
When gluing frags underwater on good LR, I don't like removing the rock because it's bad for it to get air in the holes and pores. I don't put the Superglue tube underwater. Instead, I squeeze a BB sized or pea sized glob of glue only on the frag in the place where the frag is going to touch the rock then quickly set the frag back in the water, pushing and twisting a little to make the glue spread out. Hold it in place for 15 seconds to let it partially set, being careful not to let your fingers touch the glue.
With the exception of Zoanthids and other button type polyps, most soft coral will release themselves from superglue, so I use elastics, mostly. Fishing line or bridal veil material can work where an elastic won't.
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