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Topic: Live phyto for nutrient uptake? Posted: April 24 2005 at 9:52pm |
My tank has recently (slowly over a week) developed a cyano problem...
=/ I've been running skimmerless, but 24/7 carbon, for 2 years
without problem. About 2 weeks ago I decided to try and ASM
skimmer i bought from erik just to see what it might pull out of my
system. I was impressed it didn't pull nearly as much as i
thought it might now that it is "warmed up" but it is pulling some so i
know its working. The only other thing that has changed recently
from my normal routine is that I haven't added any live phyto that i
grow in about two weeks. All tank params test just fine, except
Ph was minorly higher than normal.
The symptoms are a cyano bloom in the main taink and my two fungia are
much less "fleshy" than normal. Everything else, zoos, LPS,
softies all look great and are fully extended. So the cyano makes
me think i've got an excess nutrient problem... so i stop feeding
for 4 days and do a 20% water change everyday for 4... no luck, same
symptoms and everything tests dead on as before except Ph is now spot
on.
So the question is... could all the phyto i was adding have been
uptaking more excess nutrients than the skimmer can pull out?
Since it is live it shouldn't be adding to the excess nutrients but
could it have really been having that much of a positive effect?
Any other thoughts on my cyano/fungia problem would be appreciated as
well!
-dwn
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 10:56pm |
How old is your lighting and when was it last changed??? How long is the photo period??? Have you added any new LR, LS, fish, etc??? Upping the water flow rate may help, too. Good luck.
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 11:12pm |
PC lighting setup hasn't changed in probably two months, bulbs aren't
quite 6 months old but maybe due for a change sometime soon.
Photo period is roughly 11 hours total with an 9 hours full intensity 1
hour on each end for ramp up / down.
now that i think about it, a few golf ball sized pieces of rubble LR i
tossed in the sump just a few days ago to eventually mount frags.
they are trivial compared to the amount of LR i've got in the system
though and i've added 10x as much with no ill effects in the past.
no new LS or fish. a new blasto frag saturday from steve lopez (thanks steve!) that is fully open and looking great.
the flow trick is usually a good one, the odd thing is the cyano is
growing the thickest directly under the return where there is the
highest concentration of water flow =/
if the LR was dying off i would expect a nitrate/nitrite/ammonia/something spike at least which is why i'm confused!
thanks
-dwn
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 11:38pm |
I'm pretty new at this so don't mind me if im full of it but it seems like you wouldn't see any spikes if cyanos ate up all the nutrients. And maybe if these nutrients are coming from your sump you'd expect the 'best' growth directly under the return?
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 11:44pm |
The lighting may be the cause... the time of your lighting(for ease of math)is... more than 10hrs per day for over 180 days= 1800 hrs. There's alot that can be related to the usage of those pc's(quality of ballast, lights, temp, etc). Most manufacturers recommend changing out your lighting every 6 months to a year depending on amount of time used each day. I hope it's that simple...
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 11:59pm |
I had been dealing with quite the cyano problem myself the last month or so. Right along with what Jason was saying - I had read that a shift in color due to aging of bulbs may start putting out the spectrum that cyano likes to grow at. I just recently moved up to 400 watt halides, and strangely enough - rather than the cyano starting to grow out of control due to the increased light... it went away within a week. I think that it just didnt like the new spectrum.
I say good riddance. 
So - when is the last time you changed your bulbs?
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