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As long as there are newbies like me, threads like this will never die.
 
I am looking into getting involved in this. I read Susan Wilson's site referred to by Suzy very early in the thread.
In Wilson's thread she states that when adding phyto to one's tank, "After a while you may find you have less micro algae and have to scrape your glass less"
 
I currently need to run the cleaner over my glass on a daily basis and that micro-algae all returns to the water.
If I already have this growing in my tank, is adding phyto even necessary?
Am I simply replacing one type of micro-algae for another?
Can my filter feeders thrive on the existing micro-algae which adheres to my glass?
 
Any thoughts.....
 
 
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 I've always considered them different. I think of phytoplankton as a unicellular algae that is great for larvae and zooplankton, while the stuff I scrape of the glass is a snack for my fish!
 
 I am not sure that adding phyto is neccessary if you supplement other stuff? I like using it for live food for raising fry, and having a ton of tiny shrimps in my system for my fish.
 
 Corals can be fed cyclopeeze or oyster eggs or other zooplankton products. BSD has a frozen rotifer product. I am not sure growing live stuff for a tank is really neccessary. But, if you want to branch out into breeding, then it is a must.
 
 
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Thanks Suzy!

Things have been going OK so I suppose this all falls under the if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it umbrella. 

I just introduced a red chile coral to the tank and wanted the best for it. The previous owner mentioned phyto which got me thinking that maybe my other corals would be happier with the stuff around. The more I looked into it, the more confused I got.
 
So, if I'm hearing you right, the point of phyto is to feed rotifers, zooplanktons, etc.  If one is not breeding those, one does not need the phyto....right?
 
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i think suzy and i will disagree on this one.  corals do directly consume phytoplankton, it can be anywhere from 30-70% of their diet depending on the type of coral.  with SPS being on the low end and softies being on the high end supposedly.

so there _is_ benifit to your corals directly from feeing phytoplankton,  but as suzy said it also feeds zooplankton which can feed fish and crabs and other things which phyto won't help directly.  the other portion of any corals diet is zooplankton, so what they're not consuming in phytoplankton you would hope they are successfully consuming in zooplankton (which consumes nearly 100% phytoplankton for its diet).
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So then, zooplankton will not benefit from the other micro-algaes growing in the tank?

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oooh! i didn't know you were thinking about a chile coral. I think they are epretty delicate and really could benefit from live phyto?

 The one thing about adding live phyto is that it competes for nutrients in the tank so the algae that grows on the glass grows slower, and nuisance algae have a harder time getting food. You can add phyto paste or DT's to feed but they actaually add to the bioload where live phyto just goes around the tank sucking up NO3, PO4 until something consumes it, which happens pretty quickly, I think.

 I think it is a good thing and easy to do if you have space. I actually have a room dedicated to growing it, and I do not even have any fry babies....right now anyway!

 
 But, some really great tanks around here are way cooler than mine without adding it so.....
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