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Posted: September 19 2005 at 7:24pm |
Calcium and alkalinty are dance partners. They both decline at (more or less) same rate in your tank. They are depleted through calcification via:
Ca + CO3 = CaCO3
Ca and CO3 are dissolved in your water while CaCO3 is a solid (aragonite or calcite)
So I suggest your long term additive should be one that adds both.
Kalkwasser, calcium reactors and B-ionic all add equal amounts of both, without disrupting the ionic compostion of the water.
Buffer (or baking soda) and calcium only additives (such as Turbo Calcium) will increase either alk or calcium but long term usage will disrupt your water's ionic composition.
I use buffer or Turbo Calcium to get my levels where I want to keep them then I use a "balanced" additive (kalkwasser and calcium reactor) to maintain them. It's not perfect so every couple months I have to add either alk or calcium to help "boost" it back into my operating zone. In my case I usually have to add a little Turbo Calcium every couple months.
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 8:46pm |
ok, I'm following that exp. so how does one "know" how much of kalk to add?
is it by trying just a little and then testing to see where that ended up to know how much to add for next time?
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 9:12pm |
Easy.
Adjust your calcium and alk to where you want to keep them. Then begin dripping 1/4 of your daily make-up water as kalkwasser over night, check your pH periodically during the drip. Stop if your pH get's higher then 8.4 and either drip slower or reduce the amount of kalk dripped. Recheck your calcium and alkalinity after about a week of this (actually, the alkalinity is the most important one to check and I usually don't check calcium all that often). If the alkalinity is higher then last week then you're adding too much kalk and you can back off on the amount dripped each night. If the alk is at the same level as last week then your set, keep doing what your doing. If the alk is lower then last week then increase the amount added each evening (keeping an eye on pH). If you do this for one week and post what your starting alk level was and what it is after a week of kalk, I can give you a pretty good "guestimate" of how much you should add or decrease. Or just do it yourself. You'll zero in on the right amount after a few weeks.
Good luck.
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 11:37pm |
Cool, thanks for the quick replys, that was what I was looking
for, do I have to have the alk where I want it first or can I slowly
get it there by using kalk?
the reason I ask is the reefbuilder is not raising the alk very fast at
all 2 points per 10 days, and I think that the alk should get there
faster for the health of the corals, for ex. the alk was at 6dkh last
week and today was at 7.8dkh that was with three doses of
reefbuilder over the last 10 days.
or is this a good rate to bring the alk up to where it needs to be?
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 11:55pm |
It's ok to slightly raise alk using kalk, but caution should be exercised because you'll also be increasing the calcium level. But why don't you just add more Reef Builder? It always seem to take more then you think it should. Double today's dose and remeasure tomorrow. You can easily increase your alk by 3-4 dKH per day ime.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 12:03am |
ok, thats what I was thinking was instead of one dose a week to
double up. I have been adding a max of two tsp per dose into ro water
then slowly pouring that into the inlet side of the sump/refugium so
that it had time there to dilute.
it does make the water slightly cloudy for about 20 min at that
dose, I did that Sun and today so I'll test tomorrow and dose again.
are you saying that I could dose more, BTW it's a 40 gallon with about
25 in the sump.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 9:01am |
hmmm... Your water should not be cloudy for 20 min after adding buffer. If you're using a commercial buffer (Reef Builder, right?) or baking soda you should not see any cloudiness. If you're using washing soda there will be some initial cloudiness in the local area where you dump it, but it should turn clear within seconds. Is the RO/buffer mixture crystal clear with no solid particulates?
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 5:32pm |
I am using the reef builder and it is cloudy, if I wait 15 min or so it
clears, but then it clouds up as it enters the sump. FWIW
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