Blundell Buttons spreading in the club?
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Topic: Blundell Buttons spreading in the club?
Posted By: aquablue
Subject: Blundell Buttons spreading in the club?
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 11:55am
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Hi, I've always been curious about these, I saw talk about them a while back on the forum that these were being spread around the club, I havent actually seen one in real life just the pictures on the forum and was wondering if people were still spreading them or if anyone woould let me buy one or two from them to add to my reef, is there anyone with a fraggable colony?
-Bryce
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Posted By: ewaldsreef
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 12:41pm
If you remind me before the meeting I have an extra head I will bring you. Just make sure and remind me.
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 1:38pm
Awesome! I'd greatly appreciate it! I'll definately remind you. 
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Posted By: peiji
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 5:39pm
DId you see it in my tank when you came over? I have a colony of 3 polyps
but they are very slow growers so it's hard to find them, even in the club.
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 11:37pm
I must've missed them, I think it may of been that I had no idea what they were till recently when people were talking about them on the forum. In my experience so far I've had good luck with slow growing buttons by carefully target feeding them and adgitating the mouth to get them to close over the food when it's light food, they usually always consume the food, I've noticed massive growth acceleration since I've started doing that with the polyps in my tank I have now, I feed them an assortment of mixed foods I prepare for them, I'm curious to see how this method will work with Blundell Buttons.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:32am
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I'd like to cut one of mine off to give to a friend. Can I just cut it at the base and put it in a cup with rocks to see if it will attach? Will a new button grow where I cut the top off?
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:58am
from my experience with buttons thats usually been the case when I cut a polyp off a colony, the base left on the colony forms a new head and the cut polyp has no problems, I havent lost one yet by doing that.
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Posted By: ewaldsreef
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 3:46am
Make sure to use caution when working with any palythoas. A few club memebers have gotten extreamly sick from there toxin.
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 12:04pm
I ususally pull the whole colony out into a seperate container of water, cut off the heads I want then attatch them to rocks and place them and the original colony back in the tank then dump the container's water down the drain, by then it's an extremely smelly toxic soup
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 2:48pm
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I can't pull mine out to cut them. They are attached to a large rock at the bottom of my tank. If I cut one poly off under the water, will it cause problems in the tank?
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Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 8:22pm
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They usually don't cause problems in the tank, but I guess they could if you cut masses of them.
The Paly toxin in poisonous though and if you get it in a cut or in your mouth it could make you VERY sick. It may also be possible for it to enter through your skin, (I don't know this for sure, but there's no reason not to be cautious.)
For what it's worth I've tried killing my Protopalythoas by cutting them off the rock and never been successful. They keep growning back. Lets hope the Blundell buttons are as hard to kill as these. No one will ever lose them.
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 8:23pm
I know people say you shouldn't but i've done that before and never had a problem, before I started doing it by taking the colony out of the tank I used to just reach into the tank with sissors and cut heads off the colony, I never had anything bad happen as a result so I'm sure you could do it too without problems.
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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 10:24pm
For the newbies in the group, what is the full name of the paly that can make a person sick?
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 11:13pm
Palythoa toxica and Palythoa tuberculosa, those are the two most toxic groups of paly's.
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 8:33am
Amie wrote:
I'd like to cut one of mine off to give to a friend. Can I just cut it at the base and put it in a cup with rocks to see if it will attach? Will a new button grow where I cut the top off?
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Cut BB's actually stay stuck with Gel Superglue / Zapgel. 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 1:00am
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aquablue wrote:
Palythoa toxica and Palythoa tuberculosa, those are the two most toxic groups of paly's. |
What about them makes you sick? Touching them?
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 3:15am
doing anything to get the toxin outside of them like pissing them off enough or really pissing them off by cutting them then letting it get into a cut on your hand, pretty much if you've got a cut on your hand while your working with them or staying in contact with it long enough to absorb into your skin, I wouldn't worry too much about it unless your cutting a large ammount of paly's at a time or cutting a palythoa tuberculosa colony (i've seen a few of those in some member's tanks). I've also heard of people getting splashed in the eyes and having to deal with weeks of pain and needing special eye drops.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 11:13am
Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 11:38am
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I love how they look but the toxicity issue is scary, but whats really scary as I have a colony of wild paly's that look almost identical to this.  
[Palythoa toxica]
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Posted By: Brandon
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 5:21pm
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I wouldn't worry too much about toxicity. I have read a pretty scary story about their toxicity, but just wash your hands, try not to get it in your eyes and mouth, and you should be fine.
Brandon
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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 5:55pm
Coincidentally, I was working with some palythoa last night. I had a monti cap covered in them and I accidentally broke it off. I decided to remove all the palythoa before reattaching it. I broke off many pieces and eventually glued the monti back in place. I walked downstairs immediately thereafter to get something and had a very weird "head rush" sensation. I'm not sure if it was the glue or the palythoa, but something gave me quite a buzz - albeit a short buzz . Spooky ....
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Posted By: Summertop
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 6:02pm
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Here is what Liveaquaria says:
Caution! All species of Palythoa produce a chemical called Palytoxin, which is a very potent neurotoxin. It is found in the heavy mucus coat of these species. These species must be handled very cautiously. It is very important to wear hand protection when touching these animals - especially if the handler has any breaks in his or her skin. After handling these animals, proper hand-washing is recommended.
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 12:58pm
I believe Adam said the Blundell Buttons aren't palythoa at all.
I have done a considerable amount of cutting, glueing and handling of both the Blundell Buttons and Blundell Brownies and have not been affected adversly.
However it could be that we humans are alot like the critters we keep in our tanks in the way that generally speaking as a species we may not be bothered by certain things but there can always be the exceptions to the rule.
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Posted By: aquablue
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 2:09pm
I'd love to get ahold of the Blundell Brownies aswell as the Buttons, I know you offered before Steve but I know you have a really busy schedule and I didn't want to be bugging you
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 2:48pm
Bryce, I just pm'd ya.
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Posted By: Shane H
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 8:53pm
sjlopez39 wrote:
I believe Adam said the Blundell Buttons aren't palythoa at all. |
I was cutting palythoa - not Blundell Buttons (protopalythoa grandis) - when I had my minor episode. I'm convinced it was the super glue though.
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