Tempurature for Monapora
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Topic: Tempurature for Monapora
Posted By: Weimers
Subject: Tempurature for Monapora
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 2:06pm
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I have a Monapora frag that for a couple of weeks was doing great but recently has taken a turn for the worse. One thing I have noticed is that when I turn donw the main lights (250w MH) it seems to open up. With the main lights on the tank sits at a pretty steady 77 degrees. After a night of no lights it is at 72-73 degrees and that is when the monapora looks the best. (Ph 8.4, Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0, Nitrates 0, Calcium 380-420) |
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Posted By: ewaldsreef
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 2:51pm
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I dont think that 77 deg. is at all execsive. How close to the light is the frag? ------------- Contact me for professional aquarium maintenance and localy grown coral frags. [URL=http://www.aquatitranquility.com][/URL] |
Posted By: WhiteReef
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 3:06pm
| My tank usually is around 80 deg most of the time, and mine have been doing fine. |
Posted By: Will Spencer
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 3:09pm
| I don't know much about Montipora, but don't some corals shock for a while if their lighting changes drastically? Maybe whereever you got it from it didn't have as much light as you have in your tank. ??? |
Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 3:55pm
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78�F I'd be interested to know if anyone here keeps their tank (reef tank, not shark tank) in the low 70s? ------------- Jon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y_EzjI_ljbIwf2n5uNzTw" rel="nofollow - What I've been doing... |
Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 4:08pm
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Ours hangs out around 74-75 'cause it's in the unheated
basement. Thus far, we have excellant growth rates, and everybody looks happy as the clam! We do have a 3 100 watt heaters in the sump, but with the water flow through 3 tanks, and a large sump, I think we have a lot of surface area to blow off heat. And, no metal halides...... I was gonna raise the temp at first, Kinda spaced it off. Now, I think I'll just leave it..... |
Posted By: Kevin
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 5:19pm
| Is it Montipora Digitita? What does it look like now. I had all of my montipora digitita retract in December and I blamed it on my blenny. Now I am not sure and I don't know what is wrong either. They still are somewhat retracted and come more out during the night than the day. If this sounds the same I would be curious to learn more about your tank and see if we have anything in common that might be causing it. The weird thing is although they don't look very healty they are still growing. |
Posted By: Travis
Date Posted: February 05 2004 at 6:31pm
| 80-82... 82 on a hot day. Sense winter it's been a steady 80deg. All seems well. Is it changing color? |
Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 06 2004 at 7:40am
| It is a monapora Digitita and it does seem to come out during the night. I haven't seen many of our fish around it so I don't think they are disturbing it. Both frags (both are doing the same thing) are near the top of the tank with good water movement. I am going to try a little direct feeding to see if that will encourage them to open up more. They had been in the tank a little over a week and looked good until the other day. The tank is lit with 4-250w MH (spread over 8 feet of tank surface) All the other corals seem to be doing good. Hopefully a little extra food will help. |
Posted By: Kevin
Date Posted: February 06 2004 at 8:19am
| With mine feeding didn't seem to make a difference. If you find a solution I would be very interested to hear about it. Right now I am trying to make sure that my lower calcium and alk isn't the problem. Also I am going to take a sample of my water to an LFS to test it for phosphates and see if that is the issue. |
Posted By: Travis
Date Posted: February 06 2004 at 9:20am
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Did you start the frag at the bottom and work it up to the top? I've found with my lights (2-400w in a 110g) and frags (sps in general) they adjust better if I put them on the sand bed for the first week and then slowly move them up the rock work. This allows them to adjust to your lighting. Are they bleaching at all? It may be they just need some time to adjust. I've never tried feeding. Let us know if it seems to help. |
Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 06 2004 at 9:23pm
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we have a 36" tall tank and the montipora is about 2/3 of the way up (Basically at the top of our live rock). That is where it was placed when we got it and it seemed fine for about 2 weeks before this all started. While it is going white it doesn't seem to be bleaching out. The polyps just seem to be retracting into the coral. When they come out they are a lighter color than when we first got it and not as dense. We put some phytoplankton in the tank after turning down the lights tonight. We'll keep you updated if anything happens. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 08 2004 at 9:54pm
 Here are 3 pics of the Weimers up-and-coming 300 gal. tank with the Montipora on the left in 2 of the pics.
The Lawnmower Blenny is doing an absolutely fantastic job on the Bryopsis. 
Those turbo snails are about 1.5" and have done a number on the hair algae and bryopsis. 
This is the sump which has 3 types of Caulerpa and 4 other types of macroalgae. 
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Posted By: tom-
Date Posted: February 08 2004 at 11:16pm
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my monti grows out of control. I have a 125 with 3 160w act vho @ 2 250 halides 10k my ph is 8.34 day and 8.25 night my temp is 77.6 to 78.0 calcium is around 375 good luck! |
Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 5:02pm
| Mark, are you sure that the algae the Weimer's have is Bryopsis? I don't think it is. The Bryopsis that I have seen is more feathery. |
Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 6:09pm
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Marcus, If I'm learning things correctly, the Bryopsis is the soft feathery stuff in the main tank (top pictures). Am I getting this yet? Renee |
Hopefully, we don't have any bryopsis in the refugium (yet).Posted By: Sarnack
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 9:44pm
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I thought that Bryopsis was poisonous to most things... http://www.globaldialog.com/~jrice/algae_page/bryopsis.htm - http://www.globaldialog.com/~jrice/algae_page/bryopsis.htm
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 10:00pm
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Sarnack, you are probably correct and I misidentified the algae in Weimers tank.
There is a lot of it and the Lawnmower Blenny just kept eating it for the hour or so that I was there. It's belly was huge! I suspect that we don't see this algae much because it must taste pretty good and fish eat it before it thrives like it has in Weimers and Crazy Tarzan's Tangless tanks! Crazy Tarzan had a problem with this same algae growing on his substrate. Nate, are you still having trouble with it? It's not hair, it's soft tufts. Does anyone know what it is?  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 10:12pm
| It certaintly looked like hair algae to me when I was at their house. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 11:19pm
Here's the hair algae.
I hope that the Weimers don't mind us using their tank for visual aids.  ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 11 2004 at 7:18pm
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We don't mind the visual aid display.
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Posted By: Marcus
Date Posted: February 11 2004 at 9:13pm
| IMO, pictures 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 are all hair algae. #4 is caulerpa or something, can't really tell from the picture. I wish Danny Lueck would post some pics of the Bryopsis in his tank, it looks VERY different from any algae in these pics, IMO. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 11 2004 at 9:38pm
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I already corrected my initial statement and agreed that it isn't Bryopsis. The structure is like bryopsis, growing from a central point, but unlike Bryopsis, it is extremely fine and delicate. The Blenny loves it.
There is hair algae interspersed with the unknown algae in pics 1-4 but pic 6 is definitely different as it is all hair. Just look at the color difference. There is Caulerpa in pic 5 but the main two clumps in the center each seem to be a variety of Chaetomorpha. ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: February 12 2004 at 5:06am
| You two! |
Posted By: coreyk
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 6:44pm
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looks exactly like my chaetomorpha |
Mark Peterson wrote:Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 8:02pm
| Geez, if you guys thought those algae were cool, you should see the main tank! I counted what I think are about 19 different algaes in the main tank today. The whole thing has really changed in appearance since Mark P. was here, and there are new things to see all the time. |
Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 10:29pm
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Is that algae appearing since reducing the MH photoperiod? ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 17 2004 at 7:29pm
We have seen a reduction in the amount of alge, not sure if it is the light reduction or the turbo snails. Sure it is a little of both. The brown hair is still hanging on but I think it will soon go. The lawnmower blenny has seemed to aquired a taste for it. (either that or he is starving because the green stuff is gone and will eat anything now  )
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 5:19pm
Okay, now watch that the Lawnmower Blenny's food supply does not all disappear. It's probably a long way off, but you don't want it to start sucking on coral. 
Also, I forgot to tell you that your refugia needed harvesting. Too much algae and then harvested to heavily can lead to increased growth of unwanted algae in the main tank. So don't let it get too thick and then harvest smaller amounts more often, like weekly.
Did you get my phone message about LS waiting for you at Spuma's house? He can tell you how to place it in your tank, including how to drain off the cruddy water using kitchen utinsils! ------------- Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks: www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
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Posted By: utahtaper
Date Posted: February 21 2004 at 10:17pm
| IMO having an influx of 5 degress could be stressing the coral. If you can get it down to 1-2 degrees at the most. You would notice a big difference. I did on mine. |
Posted By: Weimers
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 5:16pm
| Utahtaper, what is your temperature at? |
Posted By: utahtaper
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 9:58pm
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79-80 degrees and I have three different montis and they grow the best out of all my hard corals. If I'm not on top of my temp in my house and it rises more than normal, my tank temp has reached 81. And yes I do notice that my softies shrink due to the influx of temp 1 degree out of the normal 1-2 degrees.
Many of our tanks hover around 80 degrees. Some will even tell you that they think that their tanks do better at 80 rather than 76-77. |