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Topic: Fish4U
Posted By: EagleEyez5
Subject: Fish4U
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 3:04pm
Ok just to clearify I am Jerry's next door neighbor and this happend to me today. June 9, 2007. I was unable to register so he let me post under his name...mabey a bad mistake on his part because I am steaming mad.....
Extremly Mad right now !!! Purchased a new addition for the tank from Fish4U....(a cleaner shrimp) aclimated the shrimp through a 20 min float for temp, then a added 1/2 cup of my water every 5 minuts (I'm sure you know the rest). After introducing the new shrimp, he swam for a couple of minutes....I walked away to grab a drink.....45 minutes later the wife asks whats wrong.....to make a long story short it was dead.
Returned the shrimp to Fish4U within two hours.....only to be told that there was something wrong with my tank....and so began the testing.......in four months I haven't lost a thing.
In my tank I have:
4 fish (anthias and chromis), or 6 corals (yuma's, ricordias, zoa, Kenya)
The test showed the Parameters as follows:
Temp 78.4
pH 8.2
SG 1.025
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 20ppm
Phosphate 0
Alkalinity 8 dKH
Ca 450
Mg 1300
Iodine .06
They refused to exchange or refund. They tried to tell me since I floated him for 20 minutes that there wasn't enough oxygen in the bag for him to survive........I was under the impression that fish and other saltwater creatures are shipped over night, every day of the year thus being in a bag longer than 20 mins.......they then said that if you don't drip acclimate shrimp, they will die every time (what a joke)!!!! After pulling teeth for about an hour they decided to give me 50% off a replacment..........I am still not happy with having to pay for the replacement......but he is still alive and doing fine in my tank after 2 hours......go figure........
I used to be a loyal customer of Fish4U, but I will never give them business again!!!
Beware of:
Fish4U
Until they quarantine or offer a 15 day return policy.......we will buy from Vividaquariums.com and suggest you do the same.........Lets teach the LFSs that they can't treat their customers this way.......
Boycott LFSs, espcially Fish4U, until the garrantee/return policy is improved.....
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Posted By: jeffras
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 3:18pm
I've always been extremely happy with Chris at fish4u. Is this who you talked to? Did you bring your tank water in to have them test it on your return trip?
If you don't think that 50% exchange on saltwater livestock is fair then You should look around at most stores. 50% is common and some shops offer no guarantee.
Flaming posts about LFS is not productive IMO. Without the LFS we have only the internet to turn to and everyone has heard horror stories about that.
I'm sorry that the shrimp died. I'm glad that your new one is doing fine. But with saltwater fish tanks you need to have a bit thicker skin. Things are going to die, acclimation is hard on livestock. That is just how this hobby works. We are a landlocked state so it takes a lot to get livestock here. It is certainly not the LFS fault that the shrimp died.
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 3:19pm
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I'm sorry this happened to you. I lost a shrimp one time and believe it was because when I set the bag on the car seat the corner of the bag folded and pinched the shrimp. It is hard for me to believe they could have done something wrong that would have caused the shrimp to die so suddenly. It is necessary IMHO to drip acclimate shrimp. I have always been happy with Fish4U and will continue to shop there along with many of the other great Local Fish Stores we have here in the valley. Again I am sorry for your loss.
Mike
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Posted By: Wudan
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 3:37pm
I'm also sorry this happened, but it's a frustrating to hear you bemoan an experience from a store that most regard as one of the best fish stores around, especially for those of us in the northern half of the salt lake valley. Chris knows his stuff.
They do state their policy on livestock returns, and it is on par with the market.
If you think losing a cleaner shrimp is upsetting, talk to a few board members about things they've lost - it might help to put things in perspective.
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 3:43pm
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience.
I still recommend people to shop there, and I'll be spending lots more of my money with Fish 4 U.
Adam
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 4:46pm
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I think you are on the wrong message board if you want to complain about fish4U. However, you can get plenty of sympathy for your loss because it's happened to all of us. Most stores have a "No Guarantee" on their saltwater livestock. But I would rather take the chance getting it from a LFS than from a bag through the mail. The LFS already takes the risk of losing fish every time they get a shipment in. Better them than me.
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Posted By: shaggydoo
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 4:48pm
It does suck to lose things but thats just part of the hobby. Not much you can do. I've been lucky and have only lost a few minor things right off the bat but thats just the risk I assume by dealing with saltwater creatures which really shouldn't be anywhere near Utah to begin with (what ocean do we live by again?). Overall I think you should just suck this one up and if you really don't want to shop there again I guess that is your choice.
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Posted By: taylorwaldron
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 5:15pm
i agree fish-4-u is great. who knows why it died. It is part of the hobby, if i blamed the store for everything I lost I would have no where to shop.Flaming stores is not cool IMO. A NAZI??? careful some one may take offense, That is a harsh statement.
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Posted By: Debbles
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 5:46pm
I am sorry for your loss but I agree with what has been said by the other posts. We bought 2 peppermint shrimp from fsh 4 u a while back and within 4 hours they were dead. We were mad but what do you do? We went in to fish 4 u about a week later and bought some more stuff and told Kerrie (sp?) what had happened. We weren't looking for a refund, just talking about the tank, she was the one that had sold us the shrimps and said that they had been a trade in that day. She felt so bad she gave us 2 new shrimp. She didn't have to do that nor did we expect it but we are grateful that she did. I think that most of us in this hobby know that with Salt Water there really is no guarantee. I hate losing money but can you imagine being a LFS and refunding money every time a fish died? There is no way they could. Everyone's water is different, everyone acclimates different, it would just be too hard. Again I am sorry for your loss, but I don't think blaming a LFS is the answer. It could've happened to a fish from anywhere.
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Posted By: Connie
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 5:50pm
Be glad it wasnt a 250.00 acro you bought on line. Thats what happened to me & I still shop @ that site... Just part of this hobby.. Good luck in the future..
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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 6:12pm
Wow!!! my neighbor sure hit a nerve......
I realize that some of his comments were harsh....and the comment about Nazis was over the line.....I have talked to Chris hundreds of times and have to say he is a great guy that knows alot about fish tanks.....
I am not defending my neighbor on alot of his comments.....but he has a point about the garantee, or lack there of, that almost all the stores in Salt Lake don't offer.....From most online stores they give you a 15 day....I just hope that here in Utah someone will step up and do the same.....
I have spent over $1,300.00 at Fish4U in the last 3 months, and have also spent over $1,000.00 buying from Vivid in that same time.....I had two clowns die that I ordered from Vivid, and they replaced them free of charge.....I had one fish I bought from Fish4U bring cotton mouth into my tank, it died after a week, and about two weeks later the cotton mouth killed a Blue Tang, I had had in my tank for over a year...I tried to treat them for it to save them, but it didn't help.....I placed a quarantine tank on my system with a UV steralizer on the return line......and treated the tang in that tank for the two weeks until he died..
So I understand the frustration my nieghbor feels when a LFS doesn't have a quarantine system or garantee.....
Amie I have bought alot from online stores and they offer a 15 day garantee....so there is no 'chance', when getting it in a "bag through the mail"...I like my chances with 15 days...I have taken advantage of that garrantee twice in the last three months....also in one order I wasn't happy with the color on one of the corals I bought and they refunded half my money and let me keep the coral......in short I like the customer service offered by Vividaquariums.com......
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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 6:32pm
I just got off the phone with my neighbor and got some more info on the story....
Like I thought it was not Chris or Kari that helped him....neither of them were even there.....it was the other girl who is always there......whom I might add has been rude to me on more than one occation.......I am sure that if he had been dealing with Chris this would not have been such a big issue.....
I also went and removed part of the name of the topic for everyones good.......
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Posted By: sukie
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 8:05pm
Well I was just at Fish 4 U and talked to Chris and Amber (the girl that is always there) - but they told me that your neighbor got another cleaner shrimp for $10.
Fish4U has been a great supporter of the club and I guess that's why everyone is jumping in to defend them. There are always bad and good experiences be it with lfs and online. But if you let the store resolve the issue instead of ignoring you then it's a good business.
To me it seems like Fish4U did their best to resolve the situation - more than a lot of stores would.
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Posted By: Ryan Thompson
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 8:07pm
Not to compare or try to one up but to make this guy feel better you could have been my uncle who spent $270 each on some wrasses and they died within a few days. The culprit? A blasted sixline wrasse! 2 of his jumped and the other 2 disappeared!
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Posted By: sukie
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 8:08pm
P.S. I will never buy a fish online. . . I rather see it in the store swimming around and eating
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Posted By: shaggydoo
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 9:58pm
I agree. I will never buy anything but dry goods online. I prefer to see my livestock in person before purchase.... but thats just my opinion.
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 10:47pm
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Just my .02 cents.
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quit winning like a little girl. Ive had several fatalities on the way home. You got it home and in the tank. Be happy for that. IMO you are lucky you got anything from FISH4YOU. If you've been in the Hobie for anytime longer than a day you know that salt has no GUARANTEE. Should I complain to my LFS cause my freaking Ray just ate my black clown?
You left the tank to get a drink. You don't know if someone in your tank attacked it or not. Get a grip dude. Fish4 you is one of the finest LFS's in the valley and does not deserve to be flamed because you THINK its there fault.
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Posted By: GSIDE
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 11:03pm
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Aquatica offers a full money back guarantee within 3 days of purchase. I thought all fish stores did, guess not. Props to Aquatica. May be a bit of a drive for you, though.
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Posted By: jessejames
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 11:20pm
i agree with everyone else on the board (amber) at fish 4 u is always very helpful and never rude to me or anyone that i have seen .i think you need to realize what hobby your in and stop crying like a baby .fish 4 U is one of my favorite lfs and it really upsets me that you are bashing them . i hope you never go back so they dont have to deal with rude people like you imo
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Posted By: Yozhik
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 11:45pm
I think FISH-4-U is one of the best stores in the valley, you must be very new to the hobby not to have experienced something like that. Get used to it, and like Dion said, "welcome to the world of Salt!" rather than boycotting the Store it seems you have succeeding in increasing our support and patronage of Fish-4-U. Hope you live and learn. Chris and the gang there are great!!! !! 
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Saratoga Springs
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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 12:33am
I was in Aquatica yesterday and that has to be the best store in the state.......Also another thing I noticed was that at Birdworld, they post the day that the fish were put in their tanks...this way you now how long the store has been monitoring them and know if there has been any illness....
All of my fish will be purchased online were they will send you a picture of the fish they are sending....as well as give you a 15 day garantee......I also know the markup is big enough at the LFS that they can afford to offer a garantee.....but all of the closed minded hobbiest in Utah are so adjusted to being led around like stupid sheep that noone has demanded a garantee.....Aquatica has a three day like stated by Gside....The Aquarium offers at least a 24 hour......
As I stated earlier.....for those idiots who bashed me without reading what I wrote.......Chris is a great guy who knows alot about Salt and Freshwater tanks.....We have had plenty of intelligent conversations about the subject......and I know that if he had been there, my neighbor would not have had the problem.......It was blown way out of propotion and like he said in his opening statment......It was not a good Idea for me to let him post using my username......
I am new to the forum but not new to the hobby by any means.....the tank I have now has been running for over 4 years.......and it is not my first.......as for my neighbor.....he has been around fish tanks for over 30 years....he grew up in Cali and has owned more than four tanks......The one he just set up is his fourth tank but had not had one since coming up here for school at the U......so he has been around and lost plenty of fish to know that it happens........He is just pissed at the poor customer service.....I guess he is just used to dealing with stores in Cali where everyone gives a 15 day policy and treats customers that spend thousands in there stores like they have seen them before......
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 7:42am
I sometimes wonder when we have a new person who only has a posting to say bad things about someone or someplace....
And, a post that raves about one store while bashing another makes me curious.
Kris, if you are reading this, thank you so much for helping me with my juveniles. You will always be my hero! Give Carrie a hug for me? And, do tell Amber that I have a few babies that are going to "the big tank". She can visit them when ever she wants to be jealous?
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 11:30am
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"but all of the closed minded hobbiest in Utah are so adjusted to being led around like stupid sheep"
I read the page 2 posts before reading the entire thread. I agree with Suzy. It appears to me that this hobbyist and perhaps his neighbor as well, may be more dissatisfied with his life than with the LFS. Why should we bother giving such a person the time of day?
I've seen even drip acclimated cleaner shrimp die within minutes of being released into the tank. Shrimp are easily shocked to death. maybe they have a heart attack? The setting up of 4 tanks in 30 years does not make the person so experienced that they cannot learn something more
The prices that our LFS charge has been determined by local market conditions. Higher livestock prices outside the Wasatch Front may be led by a market that demands a guarantee. No guarantee usually means lower prices.
I recently read a post here from a person that moved from SLC to Phoenix He told us that prices there are triple what we pay along the Wasatch Front. I was shocked yesterday when I made my first visit to Sue's Pet Castle in St George. They have Condy anemones for $30.  I admit the last time I bought a condy, perhaps 9 yrs ago, it was $6, but still, it seems to me they are only $15 at Wasatch Front LFS's. And I'll bet that I could find one at Tracy's store, The Living Aquarium, for $20 or here on the WMAS MB for $10 or less.
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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 1:32pm
To start I just want to state that I am not on here to just "flame" fish4u....it was not my intention to single them out with my comment at the end of my last post.....I feel that should apply to any store...whether a fish store or a department store......
I guess I want to say that Chris is great....and I have writen that in more than one post on this forum.....My last post came after reading this from someone who "Represents" WMAS....did you forget it says Presidency under your name.....
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quit winning like a little girl. Ive had several fatalities on the way home. You got it home and in the tank. Be happy for that. IMO you are lucky you got anything from FISH4YOU. If you've been in the Hobie for anytime longer than a day you know that salt has no GUARANTEE. Should I complain to my LFS cause my freaking Ray just ate my black clown?
This just shows me that this forum must be desprate for leadership.....
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Posted By: ReefBones
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 1:40pm
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wow .. talk about a turn of tides!!! ... I think this thread got WAY out of control .... I think I will pipe in here and say this .........
I am sorry you had such a bad experience with fish4U ... as I have never been in that store I cant say for sure what I think about it .. however I take what people say here on the board seriously .. and I would go there in a second ... flaming a LFS dose no good .. I have had very bad experience at several stores and will not shop there again .. but I dont get on here and bash them do to 1 bad experience ... I just dont shop there anymore ...
I am also sorry you where flamed here at Utahreefs.com ... and I will also say I am a little surprised to see what was posted toward you .... however on the other hand .. it would have been better on your part to mellow out just a little .. and word things differently ... I understand you where upset and in the heat of the moment posted what you did .. you also have to understand that in salt water (as stated before) there is NO guarantee ... for example .. my wife bought me a really large cabbage coral from a LFS .. they told her it would do just fine in an SPS system ... well .. it took out over 500.00 worth the SPS ... I did not jump on here and post bad things about them do I? nope .. cleaned up the mess and went on with life ...
crap happens .,..
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Posted By: badtaste
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 1:54pm
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i want to say in thank you for stickin up 4 me eagle.
i know that not all of the comments made were aimed at me, nor were they all bad, but for the ones that were:
i am just pissed knowing that if i had bought this shrimp back home there would not have been an issue for bringing it back after it died 2 1/2 hours after i bought it. the people in utah are soooooo sheltered when it comes to saltwater tanks. i have WORKED at many different stores in cali and they all offer at least a 15 day. they also use quarantine systems to study the fish before putting them out to sell i know the huge markup that is involved. just an example the phos reactor that is on top of the fridge in fish4u for 79.99. in cali it sells in the store fo 29.99. are you kidding me. and yes there are some expenses that need to be covered by a markup. but come on $50
dont worry i wont be back in fish4u ever again. what i may do is open a store next door called fish4ur tank. bring some cali influence into the valley and show these stores how an aquarium store should be run.
i feel great sorrow for the poor 'sheep' in utah that dont know how things are done outside of your 'salty' bubble.
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Posted By: sukie
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 2:55pm
It's one thing to take a higher road and let the store resolve your
issue with them and it's another to get that resolution and then. .
bash them online.
Also bashing long time members of this club doesn't help us sympathize with you. . . .
How bout this. . . . . rather than making you see it from my point of view - I'll just agree with you and be a. . .

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Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 3:44pm
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Yo Adam, I forgot to thank you for the ride home yesterday.
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 5:33pm
EagleEyez5 wrote:
..The Aquarium offers at least a 24 hour......
As I stated earlier.....for those idiots who bashed me without reading what I wrote.......Chris is a great guy who knows alot about Salt and Freshwater tanks.....We have had plenty of intelligent conversations about the subject......and I know that if he had been there, my neighbor would not have had the problem.......It was blown way out of propotion and like he said in his opening statment......It was not a good Idea for me to let him post using my username......
I am new to the forum but not new to the hobby by any means.....the tank I have now has been running for over 4 years.......and it is not my first.......as for my neighbor.....he has been around fish tanks for over 30 years....he grew up in Cali and has owned more than four tanks......The one he just set up is his fourth tank but had not had one since coming up here for school at the U......so he has been around and lost plenty of fish to know that it happens........He is just pissed at the poor customer service.....I guess he is just used to dealing with stores in Cali where everyone gives a 15 day policy and treats customers that spend thousands in there stores like they have seen them before......
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Most interesting, I believe the Aquarium has a NO GUARANTEE policy.
I agree with you that It would be nice if there was a guarantee on livestock. I had a angel die from bountiful to Farmington. I mentioned it in passing the next day and to my astonishment they gave me another. Hes doing great. I neither wanted or expected the replacement as I UNDERSTAND the policy's.
I'm sure in California they have a little laxer policy due to there fish not having the markup of the middleman. Get the middle man out of our LFS ordering process and maybe they can afford to give some sort of guarantee.
Just out of curiosity have you seen the death rate that the LFS's have to deal with? They don't get a guarantee on their order.
Ive been around "fish" for 40 years. I have 4 salt tanks now and my kids have 7 fresh and one salt now. I defiantly don't consider myself an expert in any way. HOWEVER one thing that I have learned is that these things happen. Ive also educated myself on how the lfs's operate and why they have the policy's that they have.
I wont order livestock off line due to there high death rate. Ill pay more and risk the LFS. Thats not due to being a "sheep" its due to my playing the odds. In all reality after you pay the shipping you pay as much, if not more than the lfs.
I'm sorry if my calling your post, "Whining like a little girl " offensive. It seamed like you were more interested in your own selfishness. The store did offer you compensation and you took it. Next time try talking to the owner (Kris) himself and maybe you wont be flaming his store like this.
(I will try to quit muttering McGregor when read this post.)
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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 6:23pm
Dion....I apreciate the intelligent response to my childlike rant about your comment........We are all still learning to deal with our tanks, as well as each other........
Like I said I enjoy talking and dealing with kris and my advice to my neighbor is to deal only with him.......I have a guy at vivid that picks my corals and fish for me and when I put an order for 225 or more it is free shipping....this is pretty easy in saltwater.........we usually place at least one order a month and I usually buy for three or four guys at a time........I guess it all comes down to personal prefrence and to each their own......
It has been a great thread and I am sure the talk of the town for the last couple days.....hopefully the stores will at least talk about their policy......
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Posted By: Dion Richins
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 6:29pm

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Posted By: chris.rogers
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 10:24pm
I gained a great deal of respect for Dion when we had a little spat over something. I fully expected him to keep the fanning the flames (as I had been doing, mind you) when he got all mature like and me feel bad. Dion's a thumbs up guy.
Fish4U has always been nice to me. I had 2/4 peppermint shrimp die in the bag on the way up to Logan last week. When I called them to ask what the policy was (nothing was printed on the receipt) they were nice enough to credit me for the two shrimp.
I think a lot of these problems are in how you approach them. I'll continue to shop at Fish4U. I don't expect 100% from any business I shop at. Watch/establish a track record, you know? (Here comes my shameless plug for Aquatic Dreams...) Aquatic Dreams has been really good to me, and even though I've had stuff die from them after I got it, I haven't let that ruin my experience with their store. As such, they've been cool and given me some great prices on GORGEOUS frags.
I'm sure Fish4U will do the same. Just show them what a loyal customer can be and I bet they'll show you what a loyal business can be.
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Posted By: Corey Price
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 10:31pm
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Kris and Kerri at Fish-4-U are and have always been great to me. Yes, I've had things die from all LFS I've purchased from. It's just the risk you take with livestock, but you can learn to be very selective in your purchases and wise in your acclimation, all dependent upon the live critter you choose which helps to mitigate some of the risk. Next time you visit a LFS, ask how many animals they lose while being shipped from their supplier.
Yes, there are LFS's in my mind that are better than others, but I'll keep that info to myself. Who wants to reveal their favorite fishing spot (no pun intended)?
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Posted By: Rod M.
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 9:02am
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My 2 cents:
Ever hear the saying "You can get more done with honey than with vinegar"? Sometimes I get an attitude that I don't realize I am projecting, especially when I feel I am wronged! This puts the other person on the defensive and can lead to problems.
I would like to see a policy for all LFS like Bird World has,posting a date, or not even selling livesock until all in a shipment are acclimated, This may be restrictive to a LFS. However, I would be willing to pay a little more for this service.
I just bought a 90g setup, with livestock. Even with the disruption, all of the livestock survived the move. I had still used the environment they were used to. I purchased two small chromis from a LFS and two days later they both died. I assume the stress of too much change was the cause. I suspect that no matter how careful we are, this hobby will still be a gamble.
I now liken this hobby the same as I do a visit to Wendover! I just think that overall I would rather spend my money gambling on this potentially more rewarding hobby!
Thanks,
------------- Rod Murri
Clearfield,Utah
24g JBJ Nanocube -
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 9:36am
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I can tell you that you'd be hard pressed to find a pet store better than Fish 4 U. Search around the state and give it a try.
I can also say that you'd be hard pressed to find a store in California better than Fish 4 U. Trust me, I've spent more time in California pet stores than just about anyone.
Adam
This entire thread summed up- you had a bad experience. You vented. We all feel bad for you. Blaming a fabulous fish store won't help, nor bring you sympathy. Everyone supports those great stores and is happy to stick up for them.
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