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Topic: green tint to tank?? updated with pic's
Posted By: mr_tongate
Subject: green tint to tank?? updated with pic's
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 1:14pm
my water isn't very clear just did a water change and cleaned the aqua clear hob filter and it didn't help any suggestions
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sorry about the horable pic's obvisoly not taken by mike

my system is just over a year old but i just added MH (2x 175????)might be 150's
about 2 months ago it also has a t5 glo system with a blue and a purple florescent bulbs.
72 bow with HOB aquaclear with sponge on bottom then bio balls (sm. amt) then white filter pad on top and a seagell carbon and phospate (i think )pouch had a magnium 350 with carbon and phosphate sponge but it added lots of small bubbles so kicked it off till i can get a better tank and it had HOB skimmer but it started leaking about 4 mo. ago so i turned it off ... wow now that im typing this out it sounds like my tank is falling apart ...makes me want a better system even moreBig smile
sal. 1.022
Ca. about 430 to 450
ph 8.4
am. 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 0


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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 1:18pm
Carbon will help.
 
Mike


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Posted By: ReefBones
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 6:38pm
yup .. Carbon! .. 

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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 11:03pm
im running sea gel carbon and i think phospate pouches  and changed it out to a new one when i cleaned the tank....????puzzling

its always got a slight green hue to it only a copple of times have i seen it where you almost cant see the water .....


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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 8:26am
It could be due to any number of things. To give proper help and not send you off to get something that won't work, we need to see a pic of the tank and to know more about it's setup.
Questionsize, age, filtration, lighting, etc.


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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 9:51am
Ozoner would remove the green in about a day.....I used to have the same thing....

But I would not call it a bad thing....If it is the look you are going for, then follow the suggestion the fine people have added...carbon and phosphate removers....

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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 1:44am
updated with pics

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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 2:33am
updated with more pic's

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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 10:25am
Can you please take a full tank pic with only the MH's on?
I see a few clumps of hair algae on the left side that need immediate attention. More snails are needed and probably something more. Call me ASAP
The close ups show a lot of algae on the glass. That would give it a green appearance and when it is scraped off it will make the water green. Though that may not be the problem you are having.
If there is a lot of single celled algae (phytoplankton) growing in the water, AC will not do a thing about that but a clam would eat it up and an Ozonizer would kill it. To discover whether it is Phyto, take some tank water in a jar and set it in a warm but bright location and see if the green increases in a few days.
If the problem is a yellowing to the water, AC (activated carbon) is the best thing to use.
Also, the stuff you have in the HOB filter is mostly unnecessary. Take everything out except a bag of AC. The sponge isn't needed because there is a lot of stuff growing in the tank to eat up the stuff the sponge collects.
Discard the bioballs. They are not doing anything.
Call me if you have other questions.


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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 12:24pm
mark here is the pic with just the MH on like i said above i dont know exactly what they are but i think Will said they were 175's .... but i think that i might need a difrent color bulb because turning off the t'5's that made it worse!




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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 12:48pm
i have two clams in there

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Posted By: EagleEyez5
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 6:37pm
do you have a skimmer or a sump on this tank?

what about any macro to compete for nutrients?

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Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 7:21pm
What is your alk at?
How do you add alk and cal?
Have you tried to stop feeding for a few days?


Posted By: Jeff Morrill
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 9:31am
U.V. Sterilizer worked for me.

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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 9:41am
Did you clean the glass of all green dots and let the water clear for a day before you took that pic? I wish I could stop by and check it out, but it's possible that your lighting is what is giving the green tint to what may be normal color water. What brand and how old are those 10,000K MH bulbs?
Without a UV Sterilizer or Ozonator the water of most reef tanks has a slight yellow-green tint. It's just accepted as typical.
How does the water look when you look down through it from the top? Can you take a clear glass or jar of tank water outside and see what color tint it has? If possible, take an outside  pic and post it here.


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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 9:52am
Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

  Can you take a clear glass or jar of tank water outside and see what color tint it has? If possible, take an outside  pic and post it here.
 
That is a great idea.
 
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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 6:52pm
sorry everybody i had to go to Montana for a couple of days but ill get some water in a glass and post pics tomorrow if and when the sun comes out i don't have a sump skimmer started leaking so i dont have eather and i think its time for a uv sterilizer and i dont have test kits for alk rite now and my Ca is about mid 400's  but i dose kent pro buf DKH and liquid calisum every once in a while by adding a capfull next to the pwrhed


HOWEVER...... i got back from MT. tonight and my tank looks GREAT (still kinda green but i think maybe scrubbing off the glass and algae floating in water had a lot to do with it.)
even my corals are doing GREAT they all are FULLY extended and i havent seen that in a while  i mean it looks GREAT i wish mike lived nextdoor so he could take pics ........


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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 8:41pm
You might need to replace those bulbs too. You said you upgraded. Is it possible they were used and dont have much of a life on them anymore?
 
i'd look into making a sump. with a refugium. rubbermaids work great.


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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 11:40pm
rubbermaids ? how would i set that up ? and is there any D-Y-I overflows that have been good?
i think i do need new bulbs but i cant remember what it was that i bought from will 150's or 175's its a retro fit with sockets and a reflector but its a long ballast and im lost as to what i need.....?


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Posted By: pa_reptileman_4
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 12:29am
agreed new bulbs, look into a uv or ozone. sump is not a must my best tank right now has nothing but 2 powerheads. also stop feeding maybe try and reduce the light in the tank.

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Posted By: MadReefer
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 12:53am
I'm glad to hear it is doing better.
If you want to add a refugium, you might want to buy a hang on back overflow for a quick fix. Add a rubbermaid bin, a pump, a light and some plumbing and you are done. You will also need to add chaeto or another macro algae. If you can add 3 inches of fine sand you would be better off long term.
It is more costly, but I prefer glass tanks with acrylic baffles for refugium sumps.
My water has always been crystal clear without UV or ozone. Carbon adds a great shine to the water when I use it from time to time.


Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 1:21am
you know thinking about it i have a refug. somewhere i bought it when i first set my tank up i couldnt figure out how to get the over flow to work so i threw it in the storage shead ( i think .....
ill have to try and find it.......


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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 11:24pm
stopped feeding looking better but still green i think with a refug. and new lights would help alot when i upgraded the lights i might have actualy down graded

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Posted By: cl2ysta1
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 11:29pm
Originally posted by mr_tongate mr_tongate wrote:

rubbermaids ? how would i set that up ? and is there any D-Y-I overflows that have been good?
i think i do need new bulbs but i cant remember what it was that i bought from will 150's or 175's its a retro fit with sockets and a reflector but its a long ballast and im lost as to what i need.....?
 
carlso's 200 gallon tank build has green pictures and how tos. You'll need to get a HOB overflow for the tank though. And some type of return pump. mag pumps are quite popular.


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Posted By: mr_tongate
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 9:02am
ok ill check it out im tring to save money cause there is a member that is going to sell me his 210g reef system and im excited cause its complete it already has sump

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