I hope Erik doesn't mind me saying this but I think we should raffle for it at the MWRF! $10 a ticket. Any takers?

 

I think that is a fabulous idea.  You get Eric to donate it and I'll make sure we have tickets for it!!!

 

Adam

 

That is not a cheap donation at all. I can see donating some coral or fish but not a $2500 tank!

 

Adam

ps- I've spoken with Eric about this... trying to see if we can work something out

Was this a custom design for a customer or something you just cooked up?

I'm way excited for the raffle! I better win something though. I am the guy that never wins any raffle ever.

I know you talked to Erik about the tank. He had mentioned the raffle idea to me when I brought up the MWRF.

 

This is something i just came up with, My brain never stops.

I have them cut the glass and i do the rest ..

 

Mike

 

 

Basically trying to point out the fallacies in human logic.

This tank is a perfect comparison to the stand issue. Take something so beautifully created, then add something so out of place. The logic should hold true that if someone is not bothered by putting lettering or logos on a gorgeous piece of woodworking, then it should hold true for this gorgeous piece of glass work.

I am simply a logical guy. Can someone explain the logical difference of putting lettering on this tank above the waterline compared to putting lettering on a wood canopy? If the reasons thus far given for the latter are valid, they should also be valid for this tank.

And, yes, I find logic and argumentation fun and humorous but it can often be construed as being a dick...and that too is humorous...  

Eric, again this is one sweet ass tank...kudos for thinking and reaching outside the box (pun intended)...I can't wait to see it in person with the lights...if it does make it to the reef fest raffle, so long as there is no lettering, I will put lots of tickets in that bucket.

 

I see, Still it is one mans opinion and some times its like the old saying, "Every one has one and most smell like ****"

 

It really doesn't faze me in any way. Sometimes its fun watching people make asses out of them self. Myself included.

Thats why i sand blasted the whole top is to make sure there aren't any little cracks and chips so no worries at all.

 

Jwoo

have you seen our Zero Edge Tank? I am thinking of ways to do this aswell

And, you could float little pieces of Styrofoam icebergs in it....hehehe

Now that would be the tank for the hobbiest that has already done it all...Adam, Mark?

 

No most aquariums made are lap joints not mitered, leemar,allglass,marineland,oceanic, all do lap joints.

Is it less strong, does it cost too much, did they just not think of it, do consumers not care?

It is much stronger to do it the way Erik did. I think the tank is 26 or 27 inches tall and he used 1/2" glass. The corners give him almost 3/4" of contact compared to only a 1/2" with a lap joint.

I think the main reason is cost and it takes alot longer to build them then  the lap joint tanks. To do the 45degree corners everything has to line up purfect, unlike lap joint you have more wiggle room.

Also the 45 degree angle aren't cut they have to be ground down to the degree

 

Which fallacy are you pointing out? Argumentum ad populum?  

 

I enjoyed studying logical fallacies. Although I have to think hard to recognize them anymore.

But, even my assertion that...people like writing on the aquarium stand, therefore they will like writing on any aquarium... is also fallacious. Denying the Antecedent (as far as I can tell)

But, that said, what argument could one make that the two situations are not the same if one claims "I would love to display to everyone where and how I won this great tank" on one hand, but would not in the other instance with this tank. The argument is not that they do not mind it, but would even prefer it as some sort of statement. So it would seem to follow that people of that school of thought would want etched branding on this one and it should bring in more tickets.

Besides then you cant see in the tank you J/A

But, you could put the etching above the waterline...J/A...you crack me up.

 

Holy crap!! Here is where you lose the attention of all the redneck, backwoods boys like me!! I thought he was talking about something else

Not to burst your bubbles but keep in mind that most people who buy tanks that light up like this are buying tanks that DO have patterns, letters, logos, and things like that engraved on them!!!!

 

Most of them are NOT buying light up tanks that are just etched on the top.

 

Adam

ps- however, Eric's tank is unique in not having a smooth top

 

Could be. 

 

The logical fallacy being: Since I like the engraved hood, I must therefore like the engraved glass. 

 

One cannot assume x because of y.

 

My bubble is certainly not burst.  I'm not expressing an opinion either way. I just enjoy the arguement and the logical fallacies that occur as a result. I haven't seen many lighted tanks to know whether most have engraved logos.  The lighted tanks I have seen,  did not.

I am taking all bets now. Please PM with your pick and your wager!

LOL JK guys, all in good spirit!

I know when its time to be quiet!

 

One final thought though ... (and my official opinion)

 

If a vendor (any vendor) is willing to donate to a club event then the club should be gracious and appreciative of the donation. 

 

And ... I like the engraving on the stand and canopy. I would avoid it on the glass tank.

 

I completely agree with you Shane, any donation should be and is greatly appreciated. Both the stand and this tank are incredible pieces of handiwork.   to all!

 

 

 

Otherwise, the consensus is that you built a really cool tank.

 

Great Job!  Hopefully I can come see it before you find a home for it.

 

When will we see it in the store complete and full of livestock?

 

 Spot on!

awesome job! 

That's one thing that really sets this off.  Eric's tank is etched on top and lights from under the tank.  All that I've seen previously were carved in the front panel of glass and mostly along the bottom.  The light was on top of the front pane and was attached in the canopy.

 

Kind of cool seeing it light from bottom to top.

 

Adam

 

Mike