Mushroom coral propigation
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Topic: Mushroom coral propigation
Posted By: psyduck
Subject: Mushroom coral propigation
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 4:07pm
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I was just wondering if anyone has ever done cuttings of mushroom coral, if so how do I do it, how do I ancor it (supper glue, rubberbands, bridal vail, or what) and what kind of care do I have to give it. Also does anyone know of a good site to get info on cutting corals??
Thanks
Steve
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Posted By: John Fletcher
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 4:21pm
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This is the site. For the mushroom - there are several ways, but I have only used this method. Take a small glass cup put some sand in the cup, leave about an inch or of space left in the cup and place in a low current part of the tank. Cut the mushroom at the base and set it in the cup, after about a week the mushroom will have attached to the sand and then you can glue the mushroom to a rock with the sand. I have heard of using bridal vail, but have not used it.
John "ReefAquarist"
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 4:33pm
John is right. A new mushroom will grow out from the base at which the cutting was made. Once you have accomplished this and if you want to, you can cut a mushroom cutting in half or quarters or so. Try to get a piece of the center of the mushroom with each cut. Each will grow into individual mushrooms.
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Steve
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Posted By: ewaldsreef
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 5:04pm
I have tried several methods for cutting the mushrooms. In fact I learned how to do it on this forum. I personally like to cut the head of the mushroom off. The head gows a new foot and the foot grows a new head. Mushrooms are very hardy I havent managed to kill one yet. One way to atach the mushroom frag to a rock is to stab the mushroom with a wooden toothpick. Make shure the toth pick isfirm in the rock or it will float away.
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Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 5:08pm
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I've had limited success at supergluing cuttings (even with sand attached at the base) to a rock already in the tank. It works better if I pull the rock out of the tank to glue the cutting on. Anyone have a good/different method of attaching small shroom cuttings to rock underwater?
One other method that works for me is to take a razerblade and cut a mushroom in half right through the center including the stem. This leaves two separate (half) mushrooms, both attached to the rock, but very close to each other. Some types then spread away from each other as they grow.
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Posted By: jfinch
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 5:12pm
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piston - I've never had the toothpick trick work for me :( Everytime I try it the shroom just splits and releases before it attaches...maybe I'm doing something wrong? Also if you want more "production" do as steve suggested and cut the head into 4 to 6 pieces (like slicing a pizza). That way you end up with 5 - 7 shrooms from one :).
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 8:00pm
We just cut them off and throw 'em in the sump.....
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Posted By: psyduck
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 8:47pm
OK,
Thanks for all the suggetions, I will try them out.
But when I cut them the shrink up really really small, is this normal??
Thanks again
Steve
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Posted By: Kahuna
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 8:53pm
The shrinkage is normal but they will pop back quickly.
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 8:41am
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A gel superglue will make it easier for attaching the substrate particle or particles or abandoned shell or small piece of rubble rock that the mushroom attaches itself to. Or if you want to you can glue it to a shell with a hermit crab in it. Then you can call it a walking mushroom. Similar to the walking xenia that was written about, I believe on the GARF site.
If you want to glue to something that will not be removed from the tank, you can place the glue on the substrate that's attached to the mushroom then quickly place and hold it against the rock inside of the tank for a few seconds, they usually stay put.
You could also cut the mushroom into small pieces so that when they are attached to substrate they can be placed in nooks and crannies in the live rock where the weight of the substrate helps keep them there until they attach to rock on there own.
Keep your hands and arms inside tank and enjoy the ride.
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Steve
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Posted By: chrisslc
Date Posted: December 27 2003 at 9:02pm
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Sorry to dig up such an old string. But, I read this one and performed the recommended surgery on a pink/green fuzzy mushroom and a blue stripe mushroom, both quartered, and just wondered how long I could expect before these little bitty bits o shroom recover some semblance of whole corals?
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Posted By: Mark Peterson
Date Posted: December 28 2003 at 2:48am
If you placed them in a cup or bowl with a bottom layer of rubble in a slow water area of the tank, they should attach and look a little more like normal within 10 days. (The container may not be necessary if there is a corner of the tank with slow enough water movement.)
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Posted By: chrisslc
Date Posted: December 28 2003 at 8:10am
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Great, they are sitting in the corner in a small glass filled with sand, unfortunately three of the four parts of the blue stripe floated out of the glass as I tried to lower it in. They were lost to the current before I could catch them but I guess I'll find out where they went soon enough.
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: December 29 2003 at 10:21am
In my experience once the mushroom cutting that's attached to substrate is glued to a rock , the recovery speed seems to speed up.
As far as the time table for the mushroom cuttings to resemble a whole mushroom I would say there are variables to consider like cutting size, how much wound area there is and how happy it is in the tank.
I have many large green fuzzy mushrooms in my tank and everyone started out roughly the size of a pin point. Most were actually attaching attempts gone bad. The cuttings found there way through the bridal veil method of attachment that I used to use. They lit in crevases of the live rock then grew out. At the time it was discouraging but in the end it was rewarding.
Also when cutting my fuzzys I don't bother with cutting a piece of the mouth off of the mushroom. I cut off of the parimeter and they grow new mouths.
Keep your hands and arms inside the tank and enjoy the ride.
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Steve
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Posted By: chrisslc
Date Posted: December 29 2003 at 2:05pm
Posted By: chrisslc
Date Posted: December 29 2003 at 2:12pm
Also separated some xenia stalks so i could move some to my just matured 30 gallon to accompany my incoming angler. Piece got away from crazy glue and had to be tied down. thanks to everybody who posts advice on this site!! Your time and energy make this hobby accessible to anyone willing to take the time to learn and try. Y'all rock . Thanks to the great LFS's as well
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Posted By: Mattfudd
Date Posted: April 11 2004 at 10:02pm
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I agree with Chris.. You guys realy make this a great hobby.
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Posted By: Carl
Date Posted: April 12 2004 at 7:23am
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I will attest to Steve L's success with fragging shrooms. For such a "low light" system it is absolutely amazing how much growth he has. Maybe there's something to be said for not burning Hetal Halides? The technique Steve showed me of snipping off a piece of his green fuzzies (they are all like 8" accross!) and allowing the pieces to attach to sand was just really neat. Steve, thanks for taking the time to demonstrate your methods. By the way Steve, everything seems to be doing great. Still concerned about the Monti, but maybe time will tell.
Chrisslc, I have never heard of anyone having success with xenia and superglue. I would recommend rubber bands or the rock pile method.
This is a great hobby isn't it! 
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Posted By: sjlopez39
Date Posted: April 12 2004 at 8:34am
Carl, thanks for the compliment about the tank. Glad to here the frags are doing good.
I get so excited about this hobbie, particularly propagating and right now particularly propagating green fuzzy mushrooms. Sometimes I don't know when to say when, as I ramble on about it. See! Here I go again!
------------- Keep your hands and arms inside the tank and enjoy the ride!
Steve
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Posted By: Adam Blundell
Date Posted: April 12 2004 at 9:25am
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Did anybody else notice that this thread has posts in it over a year old?
Wow, I can't believe people actually go back and search for old threads. I'm glad to see they do.
Adam
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Posted By: chrisslc
Date Posted: April 12 2004 at 3:48pm
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I can't believe it sat for four months before someone agreed with me !
Thanks Matt, how is your tank going? Sorry I haven't been chimming in on your posts about your algae problem, I've been superbusy. But it doesn't sound like too big a deal, all tanks go through a few early swings, even with yours being already matured, the transition could have caused a little die-off that's contributing to excess nutrients that the brown stuff is taking advantage of, Time, water changes, and good nutrient competitors (a macroalgae refuge would do nicely ) should bring the tank to a great healthy condition.
and yeah Carl, I've since learned that superglue and soft corals don't mix, and am I the only one who can't get underwater epoxy to stick to LR? I cant get it to bond for Sh t. I've been letting it harden in place and then supergluing both sides of it to the LR since it's custom shaped. I hope it's no just the stuff I'm using, I did buy it at an LFS .
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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 8:59pm
Adam Blundell wrote:
Did anybody else notice that this thread has posts in it over a year old?
Wow, I can't believe people actually go back and search for old threads. I'm glad to see they do.
Adam
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Adam, still searching and learning .
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Posted By: Mike Savage
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 11:52pm
Thanks for digging this up Connie. Matt and I were asking Mark this very same thing at the meeting Thursday!
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