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    Posted: December 12 2006 at 3:53pm
I've considered getting a test kit.  Getting the water tested at an LFS is just not convenient.  As christmas is right around the corner I've asked for one, but my wife isn't sure what to get.  For that matter I'm really not sure what I should get. 

Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=RS3151

It seems to test the basics.  I know the salifert products are the best, but I need something a little less expensive. 

Any thoughts, suggestions, etc?


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I would start with the basic kits from salifert, just one kit at a time if you have to, start with calcium, then alk, those are the two that I use the most.

The other kit that I bought before I knew better is just sitting and collecting dust the results from that kit are not reliable enough to trust. 
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Yep, Salifert would be my choice and Alk and Calcium would be a great start.
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I have that Red Sea kit and would agree with the others who have posted.  Forget that kit you'll almost never use it.  Get the Calcium and Alk kits.  (i would get them both at the same time.  The Calcium and Alkalinity of the tank basically compliment one another.
 
The Amonia, nitrite, nitrate kits are nice to have when you first set up a tank.  They can be helpful in seeing how your cycle is coming along, but will likely not get used much after that.  (For most of us that means pretty much never.)
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I quite like this test kit for Alk.  It also has the advantage of coming with a ph test as well.
 
 
 
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I would suggest reading the thread linked below, for the useful information it contains regarding many aspects of reefkeeping, including your question about what to test, i.e., what test kits to buy.
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I would also recomend the Salifert kits.  Especially for the Alk and Calcium.  I have used several different kits and Think these are much more accurate than other kits.
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I don't think I have tested my tank in a year.  I figure if anything is out of wack then my coral will tell me.  Plus if I have to test and its not right on mark i will sit and worry as to why.  If everything in my tank is doing ok then why bother testing at all? Am I alone here? Bring on the flames. LOL LOL
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I did not use any test kits for the first 4 years my 120 gallon was up (GARF recipe)...  If things looked "off" I would just do a water change or a few water changes over a week or so.  That nearly always cleared up the problem.  If it did not clear up I would call Leroy at GARF to get some ideas on what to check.

Sometime in 2003, I discovered Reef Central, and learned I was doing everything wrong.  So I forgot everything GARF taught me, bought test kits and probes so I could dial everything in.  My tank has never looked as good since. My pH was steady at 7.8 and I fought for many months to get it to 8.2 without success. Then I realized there is absolutely nothing wrong with a pH level of 7.8 as long as it is steady.
 
I do use Salifert Alk and CA test kits every few months to ensure the recipe I am using is still dialed in.  I find if I monitor only Alk and CA, I can get away with less water changes.
 
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Scott, what you are saying is you screwed it up when you started messing with things.  Is that correct?
 
By the way I agree with the philosophy of if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Originally posted by Will Spencer Will Spencer wrote:

Scott, what you are saying is you screwed it up when you started messing with things.  Is that correct?
 
By the way I agree with the philosophy of if it isn't broke don't fix it.
 
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That is exactly what I am saying.  For example Monica's tank looks awesome because she won't let me do anything but feed, add makeup water and  do water changes.
 
I let the animals tell me when something is wrong.  I have two indicator corals, in my tank, that I watch. One is a blue tip acropora and the other is my blue mushrooms. When the acropora's tips start fading I know there is something wrong.  When the mushrooms are not full and happy I know something is wrong.  I check Alk and CA, if they are out I adjust. If they are OK I do water changes.  Not very scientific but it works.
 
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Originally posted by Freshy Freshy wrote:

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=RS3151It seems to test the basics.  I know the salifert products are the best, but I need something a little less expensive. 


That test kit although less expensive does not buy you much. The Alk test kit in there has only a "High-Low-Ok(something like that)" indicator and does not give you a number. As others have said, you wont need some of the tests in there on a regular basis. There are also several ways you can doubt the results you get from those tests, some of the color changes in some of the charts are too close to tell apart, you may introduce parallax error and not fill the test tube exactly to the line (such that the lower meniscus lines up to the marked line), you may introduce more/less than the required amount of reagents into the tube etc., these will always leave you with more questions than answers. Also, are you adding stuff to your tank, like Alkalinity/Calcium two part additives? If you are, then it is always better to test for them. If your tank has predominantly soft corals and you perform regular frequent water changes and your tank seems to look fine between regular water changes then I dont think you will need to do much testing. The Salifert Ca/Alk test kits are very easy to use and since you are looking for a color change in both the tests (and not comparing a color to a chart) they are pretty accurate. If you must get a test kit, then these serve the purpose very well. They are usually cheaper online, and many people on the board get supplies online so you could organize a group order (or get in on one) and cut down on shipping costs.
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