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    Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:25pm
I'm thinking of getting a Small Squamosa Clam for my tank and would like opinions as to if my tank could support it. I have a 20 gallon tank with two 13watt and one 96watt compact florecents. 50/50 actinic/10k kelvin white.

If I cannot have the clam I was thinking again about some flame scallops. My success rate has not been to good in the past with these guys and I would like information as to there care from successful keepers. Specifically people who have had them in there tank for several months or years.

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IMO: your lighting for a clam is on the edge of being able to support it.  I kept a coupld of clams under pc lights for quite awhile.  I would recommend placing it high in the tank and not on the sand bed if you decide to get one.

As for the scallops, they are not photosynthetic, so you need to feed them.  I fed phyto and cyclopease on alternating days and the little guys did quite well.  Also you need to keep amonia and nitrite to 0.  Any spike at all tends to destroy there membranes and they die.

It doesn't really mater where you put the scallop because it will move and go where it wants to go.  Most people that I have talked to about scallops put in the very difficult to keep catagory, they are expected to live only 6 months in captivity.  I had mine for over a year, and then had some problems with amonia and it died.  Feed and it will do well.

 

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Flame scallops have a life expectancy of 1-2 years in the wild. Most collected specimens are over 6 months of age so don't expect them to live over a year in captivity. You may want to get smaller ones since they will be younger.
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Please feel free to visit and see my clams and learn how to feed and light them. Feeding is extrememly important and can keep clams healthy in lower light situations like yours.

These clams live under PC lighting on the bottom corner, the lowest light area of a WMAS hobbyists tank!


This giant Squamosa is one of three clams in my tank that gets direct sunlight 4 hrs/day on a sunny day.

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Originally posted by DVadar DVadar wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a Small Squamosa Clam for my tank and would like opinions as to if my tank could support it. I have a 20 gallon tank with two 13watt and one 96watt compact florecents. 50/50 actinic/10k kelvin white.

If I cannot have the clam I was thinking again about some flame scallops. My success rate has not been to good in the past with these guys and I would like information as to there care from successful keepers. Specifically people who have had them in there tank for several months or years.

I think a a small Squamosa would be fine in your tank.  I would stay away from the flame scallops.  Your tank is small and it would be hard to feed your tank enough to keep the scallop happy.

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I have been reading up on feeding clams lately (I just purchased BananaTropics Derasa, thanks Adam!).  The data I have found states that cyclopeze is too big for a clam.  Phyto is best.  Some sited recomended small size golden pearls as well.
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Susan,
Have you found any place that describes how the clam actually consumes the microscopic cells of algae and possibly the micron size golden pearls. There must be an area of topical cells within the clam that captures, surrounds and digests the algae cell. It would be very good to know how this occurs.
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Here is an article that I read before still venturing out and buying a flame scallop. It isn't the most positive of articles, but it is very informative.

http://advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2002/toonen.htm
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Mark I would love to see your clams and talk to you about them. I have
one now and it is doing great but more info the better! Let me know what
a good time to check yours out would be.



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The clam has two siphons, or tubes. One siphon takes in water and food, and one expels water and waste back into the water. Also found inside the clam shell are a heart, a digestive tract, gills and a muscular foot.

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Do the clams move around like the scallops do?
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No, they don't move around as much as scallops but I know Mark's move themselves around a little.  Mine has stayed put.
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how well would a clam do under 440w VHO lighting in a 90g 48" x 24" x 18"
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I'd say terrible.  That is four vho bulbs on a 90 gal, right?  I don't think that is anywhere near enough light for most clams.

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Terrible.  All of the corals that I have are all doing well, but I was afraid that I don't have enough light for clams.
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Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

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I'd say terrible.  That is four vho bulbs on a 90 gal, right?  I don't think that is anywhere near enough light for most clams.

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I would stay away from the higher light clams (like Adam mentioned), but I think a squamosa would do fine.  You could also try a crocea.

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I'll have to look at getting one of them.
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I should have mentioned that I'm not a fan of clams and don't have any.  So I don't really have experience with them, I'm just thinking of what most tanks with nice clams have for lights and experience of others.

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